Current Housing issues - The Lack of Actual Housing

[Themarvin]

"Plenty of houses out there" ?

On EU maybe because the region's playerbase is dwindling in numbers, NA is full aside from Dynamis, and Dynamis is not a viable option for a lot of people.

Also lol @ "fair", great instead of fighting 5 bots you have to fight 500 real people

Sure "technically" it's fair, but I'd rather take my chance agaisnt 5 bots at placard than 500 or more real people.

There is plenty of housing possibilities on ALL DC's that is, even the NA ones, but there is players that on purpose jump servers and creates pocket FCs and grandfathered players as well, that does that it becomes a limited source, especially the creating of multiple FC's over servers on DC's on same account and the likes of that.

If the NA servers is very populated then this resource is quickly going away as it is, no one seem to want to work on the actual problems as it is.

[MakoEyes]

bla blah blaty blah

/yawn

[SophiaDL]

There is plenty of housing possibilities on ALL DC's that is, even the NA ones, but there is players that on purpose jump servers and creates pocket FCs and grandfathered players as well, that does that it becomes a limited source, especially the creating of multiple FC's over servers on DC's on same account and the likes of that.

If the NA servers is very populated then this resource is quickly going away as it is, no one seem to want to work on the actual problems as it is.

[Solowing]

So are the players going to go where the houses are to obtain one? No, So why should I feel sorry for a bunch of players who wanted nothing to do with the plot, because it's on a different data center.When you can data center travel for free, two minutes is too inconvenient for a plot?

One of my friends couldn't find a private plot on my server Excalibur so they left it for seraph and found one there. They didn't complain about.There's no plots available. They wanted a plot so they did what they had to do to get one. And that is something some arnt prepared to do.

If I wanted a larger player population.I had to leave my home server n fc and plot i created and purchased and leave them behind for greener pastures.

So I transferred to Excalibur, Purchased an FC room.I got comfortable until I could find a plot. My first choice was Shirongane, But when it released and being number 600 in queue, ad threatening to crash me. The party.
Has to shift from "preferred didtricts" to "anything that's just not here" Because if I disconnected there wouldn't be a second chance. My second house appeared in grIonia (a housing ward I'm not a fan of) The reason why purchased it is because I can't afford to be picky and something.That has limited supply and I don't know when the next time I'll be able to find a better plot much less one at all.

Then one day plot 41 opened in my ward, and I moved the fc house that I didn't want to decorate until I could move it out of Gridonia.

If you want to come by I'm on on Excalibur Mist 41/42. I have them because I played the long game and took ANYTHING I could get my hands on to get my foot in the door and then I could afford to be abit more picky (Since I can upgrade my smalls to larger when the change goes live. Played the long game so well the games playing for me now!)

[SophiaDL]

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Are we seriously still using transferring to a dead DC as an excuse as to why there's available housing in the game?

I would have agreed with you, that is until DT at least, they locked Dynamis players (including me at the time on my main) and forbid us from travelling anywhere, while everyone else could travel to dynamis, people were having fun on other DC's, while I was stuck on dynamis being miserable as I had absolutely nobody there, pre-DT I'd gladly have agreed with you, but post DT nope, if you move to Dynamis, you take the risk of not only being perma locked next expansion or on patch release until they decide to release you, but you also are forbidden from travelling to all of Aether (except in very off-peak hours) and to some Crystal worlds as well.

Remove this fake "congestion" and transferring to Dynamis is viable, until they stop with this "congestion" lie, transferring to Dynamis is not viable, when they pulled that on Dynamis on DT release, the second the gates were open, a lot of people including me transferred off the DC to other DC's, SE did it to themselves and can only blame themselves for the failure of Dynamis, adding 4 new worlds was also a massive mistake, there are so many mistakes in regards to that DC I'd probably go past the character limit, just stop blaming the playerbase for not wanting to move to dead servers, it really isnt a good look, one shouldnt have to leave friends, FC and perhaps even venue behind just to get a personal house.

[Rinoa_353]

Are we seriously still using transferring to a dead DC as an excuse as to why there's available housing in the game?

I would have agreed with you, that is until DT at least, they locked Dynamis players (including me at the time on my main) and forbid us from travelling anywhere, while everyone else could travel to dynamis, people were having fun on other DC's, while I was stuck on dynamis being miserable as I had absolutely nobody there, pre-DT I'd gladly have agreed with you, but post DT nope, if you move to Dynamis, you take the risk of not only being perma locked next expansion or on patch release until they decide to release you, but you also are forbidden from travelling to all of Aether (except in very off-peak hours) and to some Crystal worlds as well.

Remove this fake "congestion" and transferring to Dynamis is viable, until they stop with this "congestion" lie, transferring to Dynamis is not viable, when they pulled that on Dynamis on DT release, the second the gates were open, a lot of people including me transferred off the DC to other DC's, SE did it to themselves and can only blame themselves for the failure of Dynamis, adding 4 new worlds was also a massive mistake, there are so many mistakes in regards to that DC I'd probably go past the character limit, just stop blaming the playerbase for not wanting to move to dead servers, it really isnt a good look, one shouldnt have to leave friends, FC and perhaps even venue behind just to get a personal house.

My main alt is in Seraph/Dynamis and I know of the issues you speak. So I have suggested those that want housing to create an alt in one of the New World's of Dynamis (Not Seraph and Kraken) and enjoy housing until their mains manage to get a plot. Creating a new alt in one of the New Worlds's in Dynamis gets you one million Gil once you hit level 30 along with 15 free days added to your subscription and can only be done once. Your only real choices atm are an apartment and FC room and to keep bidding on plots while you get to enjoy housing on your alt in the meantime and makes the wait much more bearable.



It took my OG main 7 years on Exodus to finally get a large personal plot but I sent my main alt to Seraph when it went live and got a large plot with just my bid. I was able to enjoy housing for like a year and a half until my OG main finally won her current large in LB last June. I hope they release cross DC PF, that would actually resolve the biggest issue of Dynamis and make moving there much more desirable as well. So it would be a good idea to have your alt get a personal or at least a FC plot while there are still a few mansions and many mediums left in the new worlds added and you would have your desired plot if you decide to move your main in the future.

[Solowing]

It'll seem curt to say but, yes.

It's kind of the same reason why they tried to push players towards less populated servers to get those filled up. If you really badly want a house then you will go to where the houses are.

If the players don't like with houses are located, it is well within their right to not go there and take it, but the opportunity missed is no-ones fault but their own.

I am sorry.They did lock you to the data center but given that thing probably do you wanna spread the traffic out. So lock all the at capacity servers and funnel all new players (and visitors) to your DC. I mean it does sound reasonable. Though as a consequence you got the short end of the stick, but it was done to mitigate traffic and push players to your DC.

I'm blaming the player base for the thing that they have control over. If you willingly pass up a opportunity then why are we upset at the one guy who had 50 accounts and decided to buy out the ward when he was offered the opportunity uncontested because no-one (by their own choice) wanted to bid?

Though I honestly think that they should demo clearly inactive fc plots. If sufficient evidence can show the plots not being edited in any way over extreme periods of time and the fc level doesnt increase beyond 7(2 years).

[Themarvin]

Yes there is, do you want a house or not, you gotta do sacrefices as well... this is not what it used to be as it was in ARR/HW, the resources is massive for housing today and there is absolutely no reason to act spoiled about it either, a house is a house, even if in goblet or Ishgaard and so on and so forth, also get a house on another server if it means so much to you.

Work on the actual problems, massive populated DC's also have massive amounts of people that make insane amounts of FC's with alts on other servers including houses meaning there is a bunch of accounts that has up 8 Houses and 8 FC's depending on how many servers there is on each DC, and they really give a damn about the situation by using that exploit, which should be account locked, also grandfathering is an issue seen more so on older servers as well.

[Solowing]

Because they don't want a plot that badly...

I didn't start with the plot myself, Actually Apts didn't exist when I started, nor did the demo timer.

To me, the issue of housing not being accessible without a plot was solved in patch 3.4. Since Apts act as housing for those without plots.

I would like them to increase the apt size about 30% and if possible give Apts a item limit of like 350-400.

What I would like is for players to be able to create a miniature house within their apartments with the tools already given to them. Rather than an entire system teardown.

(Which I very much like Yoshida vision of housing here. I see that vision in spurts happening. But it requires the players en mass to make that vision a reality. The reality is players have no reason to stay in the housing ward unless they want to be there.

A lot of people want *Plots* for the commodity aspect of it. Not everyone has one and that makes it more alluring. But what will happen once theyve obtained it? GIve or take a few months from now? When they've had their fill enjoying the housing aspect of the game and want to move on to something else?

The amount of time the player then spends in the housing begins to wane they begin to visit less and less and eventually it goes into the sunken cost bin. Their housing journey is over, they came they decorated, they admired, now it's time for other content. Most players don't treat housing as evergreen content.)

[MakoEyes]

Not everyone can or wants to sit around on a game 24/7 fantasizing like a delusional little lala about their fantasy housing. But you continue doing you boo. The gums just keep a-fluttering.