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  1. #3361
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    MitsukiKimura's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunz_Zbestest View Post
    Birds of hate, generally flock together. It's a waste of time to engage with people that use dehumanizing language like that. Anyone that uses woke or soy unironically obviously has an inferiority complex.
    Thanks Wuk lamat
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  2. #3362
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Here's a question, do you even know what the term "woke" means? Let me Gubal that for you.

    woke(verb): alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.

    If you're saying the writers are being alarmist? Then I don't think so - even people who have different beliefs actually can still write a shoddy story for 7.0/7.1. To be fair, we also didn't have "Wuk shoved down our throats" as people are claiming this time because Sphene needed development from her cryostasis of 400 years. Sure, Wuk was present, but she was a little better in 7.2 than she was in the previous two patches - which is an improvement. I won't call it perfect either.

    In general though, I think they made good on culture, just did it wrong with Wuk not having any depth. Whoever has taken over the writing has done a better job, though I'm still wondering how they're going to finish out the expansion story. They at least aren't going to the length that post-patch EW was with a giant nostalgia trip - but I think that they used the references better instead of outright copy pasta-ing story beats/villains while mixing a tiny bit of XIV in.
    Yeah, I'm aware of how woke was originally used. Thats why I've described my fave expansion, Stormblood, as wokeness done right many times.

    I'm from a POC background, and if the writers ever portrayed my culture the way they portrayed India through Thavnair, I’d be seriously disappointed—maybe even pissed. Going too woke reduces cultures to props and empty set dressing. Its condescending as hell imo.
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    Last edited by JohnLakeside; 03-31-2025 at 12:14 AM.
    Lyse is great if you play in Japanese. The English VA totally butchered her character.

  3. #3363
    Player Gunz_Zbestest's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    Thanks Wuk lamat
    Eat your heart out.
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  4. #3364
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    I like how Wuk Lamat was less "in your face" in 7.2. She even decided to go with Malachite instead of following you with Sphene.
    The devs seem to be getting the message.
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  5. #3365
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    Mao said it before and Mao says it agains. Mao likes Lady Fuzzy Cat. Is borings MSQs whats Mao nots like. Mao was hopings Mao would get to do lots funs stuff with Lady Fuzzy Cat. Instead all Mao gots was "Talk to Lady Fuzzy Cat".
    (9)

  6. #3366
    Player Gunz_Zbestest's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao said it before and Mao says it agains. Mao likes Lady Fuzzy Cat. Is borings MSQs whats Mao nots like. Mao was hopings Mao would get to do lots funs stuff with Lady Fuzzy Cat. Instead all Mao gots was "Talk to Lady Fuzzy Cat".
    Gunz not have utilities to gives nations voting power or bill of rights after nation just got done with war over monarch. Oh well, gunz keep enjoying the ride, he no diplomat.
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  7. #3367
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_of_Ebina View Post
    I like how Wuk Lamat was less "in your face" in 7.2. She even decided to go with Malachite instead of following you with Sphene.
    The devs seem to be getting the message.
    If that's the dev's takeaway there is no hope for this game's story.

    Wuk Lamat is just a symptom of how much of a failure the writers are. Including Ishikawa, who massacred all the worldbuilding in ShB and EW.
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  8. #3368
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    Yeah.

    You're proof there is no pleasing people like u
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  9. #3369
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoganMccree View Post
    If that's the dev's takeaway there is no hope for this game's story.

    Wuk Lamat is just a symptom of how much of a failure the writers are. Including Ishikawa, who massacred all the worldbuilding in ShB and EW.
    I'd be interested on hearing you elaborate on that opinion since ShB is considered, by many, to be FFXIV at it's best.
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  10. #3370
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    What annoys me far more than Wuk... is the constant eating. Ever since 6.x made eating a novelty for Zero, they use food as some sort of pinnacle of story telling.
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