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  1. #11
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by gidsonBrand View Post
    Calling it zero effort is doing yourself a disservice. We're so used to only having 4k GCDs and having to get 50 assists for battle high.

    Now that killing isn't a herculean task that requires a bit of luck, you're good enough to make the most of these changes. Be proud of that.
    It's a bit of a shock to die twice and still get BH5 half way through the match. (Please mark enemy SAMs for us old folks.)

    The mount-in-motion thing I suspect is responsible for the remarkable pace of matches (that and as Atreus notes, matches are likely dominated by PvP enthusiasts rn).

    Valence has mentioned it's likely going to increase the zerg, so might be a mixed blessing.
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  2. #12
    Player Exmo's Avatar
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    Exterior Motive
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    Raiden
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Being able to mount while running makes the gamemode feel so much faster.
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  3. #13
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    Genz Kawakami
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    Louisoix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    It's as pathetic as ever because of the series rewards that attract players uninterested in PvP + lack of tutorial + rewards regardless of performance.

    With the new BH distribution, the devs should consider that reward to be given only to players who reach BH1 at least once during the run. That may not be enough but it would still prune the bottom of the pile.
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    Last edited by Genz; 03-26-2025 at 07:44 AM.

  4. #14
    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genz View Post
    It's as pathetic as ever because of the series rewards that attract players uninterested in PvP + lack of tutorial + rewards regardless of performance.

    With the new BH distribution, the devs should consider that reward to be given only to players who reach BH1 at least once during the run. That may not be enough but it would still prune the bottom of the pile.
    That's a sufficiently low bar it might have some impact.

    That said, I'm not convinced the disinterested are on the field much yet.

    Just ran into a double premade which was basically completely pointless for all involved.
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  5. #15
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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by echo78 View Post
    Frontlines was already like that if a premade wasn't stomping the entire match.

    I never play with premades but its so chaotic and hectic now with everyone reaching BH3-5 so quickly. I've already had multiple games with double digit kills but it doesn't feel earned. If they just added the role actions without the change to assists giving 4 BH this would be more enjoyable imo.

    I play monk and smite is extremely OP. So many free zero effort kills. Before I had to actually time using fire's reply or combo with pressure point for kills. Now I can just thunderclap in, smite someone, get my free kill and run out.

    Finishing a game with 0 deaths does take some effort now though.
    If the mode is more winnable, it's an improvement. In the older patches before they buffed DR three times and you could actually get kills and by extension points, it felt more winnable. Complaining about getting kills in PvP is amusing.
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  6. #16
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    Router's Avatar
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    Router Modem
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    Excalibur
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    Bard Lv 100
    I'm having a good time with the new stuff, though maybe I'm just abusing eagle eye shot at the expense of others, heh. MCH almost feels like how it felt before all the damage resistance nonsense, so I'm enjoying it while it lasts
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  7. #17
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    Character
    Ophelia Irika
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Killing has become less rewarding while participating in fights has become more rewarding.
    Snowballing has been slightly nerfed while assists has been buffed.
    If for some reason you're not able to secure any kills all you need is 25 assist compared to the 50 you needed then.
    Seems like a decent adjustment. I'm not sure why some are upset about this.
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  8. #18
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    Mei Coincounter
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Only played a few matches on Onsal Hakair yesterday, but so far so good. Need more time with it, but looking like it could be the most fun version of FL since 6.0.

    There's some room for refinement: don't think viper needed more mit with how cracked they are with bloodbath and I don't think a 20% damage penalty makes sense on paladin in a 7.1 spec world. In general the role action need some refinement. That said, so far in terms of game feel I like it. The mounting changes are a global system adjustment but they really breathe new life into the mode.

    I predict overall a faster game with higher lethality, which can be OK with a few more tweaks.
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  9. #19
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    Runic Raven
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    The best thing about the changes: i saw a certain premade lose every single match i participated in.
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by echo78 View Post
    Heavily disagree. I really dislike how fast battle high generates now. You used to have to work for battle high but now everyone just gets it for free. People just get straight up deleted in a second by mid game.

    Frontlines was the only thing left in the game I loved doing so oh well, another thing taken away.
    Frontlines were a horrible slog of tankiness with all the modifiers. The state right now is just it. You failed if you get deleted in a second mid game.
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