Do you still think FFXIV should be Monthly Sub Model ?

[Red-thunder]

Are you really using Lost Ark to make an argument? A game that hemorrhaged it's peak of 1,324,761 down to 15K right now, mostly due to it's business model and irritating game systems? It's clearly not that amazingly fun.

Maybe you should try reading and realize I'm talking about the combat and raids. Everyone quit because you hit a wall eventually but in those few months you have way more fun than 12 years of FF14.

That's why people should just quit this game and go play a multitude of single player games and the occasional new MMO. You'll have a way better time than being stuck in this dilapidated outdated MMO lmao. Your sub fees are not going into FF14 and they'll never make this game fun or modernize or innovate.

Just be a tourist, hop onto the newest MMO, ride the highs and quit when you see the P2W wall. That's the smart way to play games. No one should be stuck with FF14 except for ERP which it is very good at.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Maybe you should try reading and realize I'm talking about the combat and raids. Everyone quit because you hit a wall eventually but in those few months you have way more fun than 12 years of FF14.

That's why people should just quit this game and go play a multitude of single player games and the occasional new MMO. You'll have a way better time than being stuck in this dilapidated outdated MMO lmao. Your sub fees are not going into FF14 and they'll never make this game fun or modernize or innovate.

Why are you talking about combat and raids? This post is about whether we should have a sub here. "Go play the dead Lost Ark for 2 months" isn't a solution for someone seeking long term entertainment. (Half of which is exceedingly boring as you trudge through the exceptionally terrible and boring story with equally boring gameplay, if you can even call 1 shotting everything through the story as gameplay).

[Red-thunder]

Why are you talking about combat and raids? This post is about whether we should have a sub here. "Go play the dead Lost Ark for 2 months" isn't a solution for someone seeking long term entertainment. (Half of which is exceedingly boring as you trudge through the exceptionally terrible and boring story with equally boring gameplay, if you can even call 1 shotting everything through the story as gameplay).

Imagine playing LA for the story. You just use the free boost to get to endgame and start doing raids.

[DiaDeem]

As opposed to what?? Free-to-play/Pay-to-win/Battlepass?? Fuck that.

[DendrielConcade]

Imagine playing LA for the story. You just use the free boost to get to endgame and start doing raids.

A games Raid content, after skipping all the story, is better than all of FFXIV in its entire form. I can't tell if this is a joke or not, with the game that crashed hard with its dead end content from what I'm seeing. This one of those "Bait Used To Be Believable" moments or what?

[Red-thunder]

A games Raid content, after skipping all the story, is better than all of FFXIV in its entire form. I can't tell if this is a joke or not, with the game that crashed hard with its dead end content from what I'm seeing. This one of those "Bait Used To Be Believable" moments or what?

Try not to get upset, fanboy, that a F2P game catered to whales with shitty P2W elements and no-life-inducing grind still has better combat and raids than the sub-based FF14.

Who knows how much worse it will get if this game turns F2P lmfao

They even offer free story skips because they know their story is dogshit.

What about FF14? You can't skip all the dogshit story and have to grind through them.

[Clockworks]

A games Raid content, after skipping all the story, is better than all of FFXIV in its entire form. I can't tell if this is a joke or not, with the game that crashed hard with its dead end content from what I'm seeing. This one of those "Bait Used To Be Believable" moments or what?

Yeah because FFXIV is doing oh so great right now, we had a peak for DT at 1.4 millions and we are as of right now probably at about ~~800k (if even that) considering the last census was at 1 mil back months ago WITH THE FREE TRIAL taken into account.

That's over a 600k players loss at MINIMUM, laugh all you want, that's exactly where FFXIV is heading at this pace, and yall defending a multi billion company is not going to save the company, you will make it keep sinking even deeper until its unredeemable.

[Rosenstrauch]

If you're that desperate for people to play Lost Ark with you, why not skip the console war bullcrap and simply ask?

[Clockworks]

If you're that desperate for people to play Lost Ark with you, why not skip the console war bullcrap and simply ask?

People keep bringing other games constantly, it's always "But WoW does it worse !", "but X game does it worse !!"

Funnily enough, now that someone uses that argument agaisnt FFXIV, now it's bad and they're desperate for people to play with ?

Nice double standards

[Red-thunder]

If you're that desperate for people to play Lost Ark with you, why not skip the console war bullcrap and simply ask?

I don't play Lost Ark anymore lol. I used it as an example of how FF14 is so garbage even a F2P P2W MMO is still more fun.

There are like a thousand better games than FF14 but the few remaining legit players are so addicted they cannot fathom quitting and go playing other games.

They don't even realize that this game doesn't even have 100,000+ real players anymore. They're just playing among Second Life ERPers and bots LOL.