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  1. #1
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    Collin_Sky's Avatar
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    Memento Mori
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by isevery View Post
    I strongly disagree, I should not have my tell's regarded as open season for abuse from players because I am doing as I have been asked.
    I am MORE than happy to explain what the channel does, and indeed - how to leave it and stop receiving invites *in* the novice network. At least that way, people have to own their words in front of 350+ people (at least on my server). It is no more onerous to ask that question politely in an appropriate channel, than it is to be a keyboard warrior and send me hate mail for acting out of genuine desire to see people thrive and find community in the game.

    Edit; I have had a few people genuinely ask what it is, and they of course get a welcoming reply and all the help they ask for. But that's also kind of what the network is for in the first place. I think that particular aspect of the invite system just doesn't hold enough value compared to its downsides.

    Edit 2: I also don't agree that seeing a player invited you is an improvement over a system message. The NN is an official channel, the amount of people that have thought I was inviting them to an FC is... very very high.
    Nah.
    This is entirely a you problem. It is widely regarded by the community as an annoyance when people run around spamming people with unsolicited FC invites. By the sounds of things, you are doing the exact same thing, but with NN invites.

    1. This is kinda rude.
    2. You're inviting this upon yourself.
    3. You want to continue doing this rude behaviour and suffer none of the consequences of doing so.
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    isevery's Avatar
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    Hera Dyel-loth
    World
    Raiden
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    Sage Lv 100
    I agree FC invite spam is rude, and an annoyance.
    I agree that declining an invite should have some way to prevent being re-invited unless you want it.
    I do not agree that acting in accordance with SE's own guidance should come with a handy button to privately message me whatever unpleasantries you wish. If the ingame implementation doesn't permit me to see that someone has already been invited and declined, then how can I possibly be held accountable for that same player receiving a second invite from me, or another mentor at a later date? Am I expected to memorise every player that i have ever invited, when player search returns in excess of 200 characters, which changes dynamically as players log in and out?

    I'm not "trying to avoid consequences", as I do not see that verbal abuse as an intended or reasonable response to have to another player trying to invite you to an official game system.
    If you want to argue that there is a valid use for mentor's PC names being attached to NN invites, I'd love to discuss that - but I cannot see that it's a feature that exists for the net benefit of anyone in the system as it stands, nor do I think that "Just don't invite people if you don't want to get shouted at" is a constructive comment to make.
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    1. This is kinda rude.
    3. You want to continue doing this rude behaviour and suffer none of the consequences of doing so.
    There is no other way around when you have to invite hundreds of them on your own. The very reason our NN is active and alive is for that specific reason.
    I have received some aggressive tells albeit uncommon, and most of the time it's players angry thinking it's yet another invite spamm from FCs, which are the real problem. I don't care much though, most of the tells I get are friendly.
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