does anyone else not play xiv as much as before after dt?

[Archeron]

I won't squarely place the blame on Dawntrail for having played less. It's two reasons for me mainly.

1. Prolonged content drought

There is literally nothing to do, patches come out after 5 months, and these patches have so little content sometimes you can complete everything at a very casual pace in less than a week. (Especially in Endwalker...) Meanwhile I can boot up a free to play game, and I constantly have goals to work towards, new content coming out every month, and better value for my $15/mo if I were to spend it on them. This is a paid subscription MMORPG, one that's keeping Square Enix afloat. Neglecting it, and pushing your audience away can only end badly. There is nothing for me to do, so I play other games, and have no reason to come back to FFXIV.

2. The community leaves much to be desired

This community prides itself on being "The Best gaming community", while also displaying some of the most entitled, selfish attitudes I have ever seen. This game harbors a dark underworld of stalking, and harassment (Which even persists after changes to Blacklisting). The more normal people quit the game, the more exposed you get to the two extremes you'll see on this game. One side, will bend over backwards for sprouts, and make unreasonable demands of people to accomodate the sprout, and will go out of their way to crucify anyone who makes a percieved transgression towards a new player. Lets stop pretending duty support hasn't been in the game for years... Then you have the Hardcore raiders who are incapable of putting up with even the most trivial of setbacks, and who are incapable of teaching people strategies, and just expect people to know everything, and execute every mechanic flawlessly without failure. The extreme gatekeeping and toxicity in PF's being a prime example of the worst our community has to offer.

When my friends quit playing this game, I'll quit with them - and I probably will not return until 8.0 (Assuming major steps are taken to address current issues that have persisted for several expansions at this point.)

[sindriiisgaming]

I won't squarely place the blame on Dawntrail for having played less. It's two reasons for me mainly.

1. Prolonged content drought

There is literally nothing to do, patches come out after 5 months, and these patches have so little content sometimes you can complete everything at a very casual pace in less than a week. (Especially in Endwalker...) Meanwhile I can boot up a free to play game, and I constantly have goals to work towards, new content coming out every month, and better value for my $15/mo if I were to spend it on them. This is a paid subscription MMORPG, one that's keeping Square Enix afloat. Neglecting it, and pushing your audience away can only end badly. There is nothing for me to do, so I play other games, and have no reason to come back to FFXIV.

2. The community leaves much to be desired

This community prides itself on being "The Best gaming community", while also displaying some of the most entitled, selfish attitudes I have ever seen. This game harbors a dark underworld of stalking, and harassment (Which even persists after changes to Blacklisting). The more normal people quit the game, the more exposed you get to the two extremes you'll see on this game. One side, will bend over backwards for sprouts, and make unreasonable demands of people to accomodate the sprout, and will go out of their way to crucify anyone who makes a percieved transgression towards a new player. Lets stop pretending duty support hasn't been in the game for years... Then you have the Hardcore raiders who are incapable of putting up with even the most trivial of setbacks, and who are incapable of teaching people strategies, and just expect people to know everything, and execute every mechanic flawlessly without failure. The extreme gatekeeping and toxicity in PF's being a prime example of the worst our community has to offer.

When my friends quit playing this game, I'll quit with them - and I probably will not return until 8.0 (Assuming major steps are taken to address current issues that have persisted for several expansions at this point.)

i can vouch for the toxicity. I literally got doxxed just for pointing it out. And ive been harassed in the game for years by either HC raiders who think its not ok to parse low or members of a certain community who easily point the finger of "phobia" when you disagree with literally anything they say or do

[Clockworks]

i can vouch for the toxicity. I literally got doxxed just for pointing it out. And ive been harassed in the game for years by either HC raiders who think its not ok to parse low or members of a certain community who easily point the finger of "phobia" when you disagree with literally anything they say or do

That's not what happened, you got called out for using mods and also for harassing players because they had low parses and making fun of them by hunting their logs page.

Stop derailing threads.

[BristolRuss]

i can vouch for the toxicity. I literally got doxxed just for pointing it out. And ive been harassed in the game for years by either HC raiders who think its not ok to parse low or members of a certain community who easily point the finger of "phobia" when you disagree with literally anything they say or do

You got doxxed for being two-faced. I've literally seen your Balance posts where you mentioned you kicked members from your group for not doing enough damage and shit talking their abilities. You also constantly deny that you use mods yet I've seen your Discord posts asking for help with them (over 300 mods installed!).

[Evergrey]

2. The community leaves much to be desired

This community prides itself on being "The Best gaming community", while also displaying some of the most entitled, selfish attitudes I have ever seen. This game harbors a dark underworld of stalking, and harassment (Which even persists after changes to Blacklisting). The more normal people quit the game, the more exposed you get to the two extremes you'll see on this game. One side, will bend over backwards for sprouts, and make unreasonable demands of people to accomodate the sprout, and will go out of their way to crucify anyone who makes a percieved transgression towards a new player. Lets stop pretending duty support hasn't been in the game for years... Then you have the Hardcore raiders who are incapable of putting up with even the most trivial of setbacks, and who are incapable of teaching people strategies, and just expect people to know everything, and execute every mechanic flawlessly without failure. The extreme gatekeeping and toxicity in PF's being a prime example of the worst our community has to offer.

When my friends quit playing this game, I'll quit with them - and I probably will not return until 8.0 (Assuming major steps are taken to address current issues that have persisted for several expansions at this point.)

Besides my own personal lack of interest in gaming as I once used to, the community is the other main reason I don't play FFXIV as much as I used to.
Even when I've talked about FFXIV to others and said it's a good game I mention how the community can be.
Not everyone falls under that category ofc. But that it's something to keep in mind.