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    Kohashi's Avatar
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rebeccubus View Post
    You are like WAY too aggro about this, first off. Second, I think I will leave the discussion of older content not scaling well to someone else because they can likely make that argument better than me with better data (though youre also ignoring what others have said because even IF you were right, it is more complicated than just minilvl). What I will address and repeat is my MAIN point that you also ignored, which is that duty finder should be the place for the original intended experience of the fight, and I will not agree with you if you disagree on what the intended experience is. If someone wants to beat a fight in 5 minutes when it was originally 10, THAT should be in party finder.
    You are just one of those people waking up and picking a random fact to be upset about and then making a post on it with 0 data on it.

    The core issue with these fights is not even the scaling but it originates from the fact they throw 1 sprout into max level and max-geared players that make little to no mistakes when mechanics happen. If you throw in 24 sprouts in there, they will see every single mechanic out there despite having max ilvl.

    As for damage scaling weird, it's grossly not true, especially with MINE. I am currently helping some friends with P12s min lvl and no echo and I am doing 8k dmg on SGE which is in line with what I was doing when the fight was current.
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    Shalia Golmarr
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    You are just one of those people waking up and picking a random fact to be upset about and then making a post on it with 0 data on it.

    The core issue with these fights is not even the scaling but it originates from the fact they throw 1 sprout into max level and max-geared players that make little to no mistakes when mechanics happen. If you throw in 24 sprouts in there, they will see every single mechanic out there despite having max ilvl.

    As for damage scaling weird, it's grossly not true, especially with MINE. I am currently helping some friends with P12s min lvl and no echo and I am doing 8k dmg on SGE which is in line with what I was doing when the fight was current.
    You don't get to demand that other people do rigorous testing while at the same time robbing around anecdotal claims as if they were gospel. That's just not how scientific rigor works.
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jendic View Post
    You don't get to demand that other people do rigorous testing while at the same time robbing around anecdotal claims as if they were gospel. That's just not how scientific rigor works.
    I guess having the actual data of my prog runs and the damage+ timing when the fight was current vs the data from the runs now for the same fight with MINE count for nothing. OK??
    who's alt are you?
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    Jayce Royu
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I guess having the actual data of my prog runs and the damage+ timing when the fight was current vs the data from the runs now for the same fight with MINE count for nothing. OK??
    who's alt are you?
    The max ilvl for anabasios was 660, right now the maximum item level that can be obtained is 730, only a 70ilvl difference, its not a comparable experience to doing Alexander etc. minilvl at all.
    There comes a point when you outgear a fight to the extent that when ilvl synced your substats are fully capped and we aren't outgearing the final tier of endwalker to that extent yet (not to mention the fact that there was really minimal changes made to jobs across the board from Endwalker to Dawtrail compared to previous expansions). So with all due respect, its pretty disingenuous to use your experiences with P12S MINE in this context.
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I guess having the actual data of my prog runs and the damage+ timing when the fight was current vs the data from the runs now for the same fight with MINE count for nothing. OK??
    who's alt are you?
    Dude, you need to chill out for real
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    Libitina Incarne
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    Phantom
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jendic View Post
    You don't get to demand that other people do rigorous testing while at the same time robbing around anecdotal claims as if they were gospel. That's just not how scientific rigor works.
    You do, and it's because the burden of proof is on the person who's claiming that there's a difference.
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