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  1. #41
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    Dr Yeol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyReaper View Post
    - What if someone decides to start it like, 4 weeks later. Let's just say they are alone, how would they find 23 people if everyone stops doing it? (My biggest "fear" yet)
    You can queue into it with 12 players minimum & 24 players maximum. I'm assuming you only need 12 to do all the mechanics. The rewards & difficulty stay the same whether you do it with 24 players or less.

    Quoting patch notes:
    Furthermore, preformed alliances (12 to 24 players) may challenge this duty without role restrictions or being matched with other players. Challenging this duty with fewer players will not result in decreased rewards.
    * Difficulty for this duty has been set for a 24-player alliance and will not scale depending on party size.
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    Last edited by Yeol; 12-18-2024 at 06:55 PM.

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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    Releasing a piece of content on the 24th of December is quite possibly one of the dumbest things this dev team has ever done.
    Even more so when that piece of content requires 23 other people to complete.
    It's not even a "lol na" thing either since i'm pretty sure japan celebrates christmas as well.
    What the hell were they thinking???
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  3. #43
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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    You can queue into it with 12 players minimum & 24 players maximum. I'm assuming you only need 12 to do all the mechanics. The rewards & difficulty stay the same whether you do it with 24 players or less.

    Quoting patch notes:
    Odds are this is so they can later add a echo buff to it like delibrum savage etc
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  4. #44
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    Merrigan Gilgard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    It's not even a "lol na" thing either since i'm pretty sure japan celebrates christmas as well.
    What the hell were they thinking???
    Not particularly: the consumer habit has been imported, but the party itself doesn't seem to have the place we give it.
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  5. #45
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    I think it's actually a good idea to make people run the content if they care about BiS, much like for savage. This is not a savage patch and adding new gear incentives is rarely a wrong thing to do.
    My problems with this raid lie directly with the concept and what it truly is (a glorified 24 man trial boss with the same mechanics), and the release date. But gear? No. Wish casual content had as many gear options to pick from to compete with tome gear though, for sure.
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    Releasing a piece of content on the 24th of December is quite possibly one of the dumbest things this dev team has ever done.
    Even more so when that piece of content requires 23 other people to complete.
    And when do you propose the dev team release it and what is keeping you from actually doing it when you have time?
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  7. #47
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    When the Endwalker relics ended up being too accessible you guys said relics shouldn't be a grind only some are willing to do because the prestige didn't matter.

    Yeah well, prestige doesn't matter, so who cares if content that few players in the party might be carried through gives BiS!
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  8. #48
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Even if it's BiS compared to Savage, it'll all be obsolete when 7.2 hits. So why worry about it. We don't even know how many Chaotics they're gonna put out in the expansion. This could be the only one. Depending on how popular or not it is, it may be the only one ever.
    From what I gathered from the Live Letters, this is an experiment. I wouldn't be surprised if they're calling the bluff of players who wanted something like a Savage 24 man the same way they did with people who wanted Savage 4 man. If this content dies like Criterion, then they may decide the experiment isn't worth it. They are being wiser about rewards.
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  9. #49
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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    It's nice to have an alternative way of gearing but it feels awkward because their iLvl system is too rigid and they kind of designed themselves into a corner.

    Would be nice if there were like 4 chaotic bosses, 24 man style, and the gear would work towards that but alas.
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  10. #50
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    Memento Mori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I think it's actually a good idea to make people run the content if they care about BiS, much like for savage. This is not a savage patch and adding new gear incentives is rarely a wrong thing to do.
    My problems with this raid lie directly with the concept and what it truly is (a glorified 24 man trial boss with the same mechanics), and the release date. But gear? No. Wish casual content had as many gear options to pick from to compete with tome gear though, for sure.
    The regular alliance raid gear should be savage level. It being 10 ilevels below is useless.
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