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  1. #31
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    MaxL's Avatar
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    Emerald Fawn
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    Lich
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    Gladiator Lv 9
    I grabbed an image from a friend that shows the changes to Roe eyes — how 1) the whites are overbrightened, 2) the pupils are darkened, 3) the glint is so much weaker than before, and 4) the "baked-in shadow" at the top is far too strong



    Top row is original, bottom is benchmark
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  2. #32
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    faiarrow's Avatar
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    Skotyrfedar Dzemael
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    I see sadly they've not touched anything to fix femroe save for tweaking *some* of the normal maps on face 2 - still have the really weird issue with baked in shadow for the brows not having a correct normal map for it, also still has the most hyuran nose out of the faces next to 3 for adjustments (3 just looks... yassified tbh and it's not pleasant.)

    Nose mark for hellsguard? Nah mate, just an awkward dirty smudge that's incredibly light now, the total opposite to what ash looks like on skin.

    The eyes are genuinely awful with the black pupils. It changes so much with every face type.
    I don't understand how they managed to just copy-paste a hyuran eyeform and diffuse map there when male roegadyn face 2 has the coloured pupils even in 7.0 live.

    I'm... sad I had to roll femhroth - I mean I'm very happy with what I made and it's giving me a lot of joy again, to the point I'll likely permanently change one of my alts to what I've made if they ever fix femroe, but I forsee many more JP reports in my future because hellsguard aren't hellsguard anymore, and a big charm point of roegadyn have been lost between changed eyes and racial trait shaving for the sake of "streamlining".
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    ローエンガルデはその人種的特徴を維持する資格がある。CBU3は女性ルガディンのノーズ灰と黒目の瞳孔を調整してください。 私たちはゼーヴォルフ族ではありません。

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by faiarrow View Post
    I forsee many more JP reports in my future because hellsguard aren't hellsguard anymore, and a big charm point of roegadyn have been lost between changed eyes and racial trait shaving for the sake of "streamlining".

    A friend from my FC is telling me that, according to an unofficial census, there are only 2,500 femroes active (across both clans) in the entire JP datacenter, versus 10,000 in the NA datacenter, so I'm not super hopeful about this being an issue that can ever be high in the priority list for the developers.

    But if you know how to write/read Japanese, I can only encourage you to file a report on the JP forums on our behalf. That would be very much appreciated.
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  4. #34
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    Devil'von Panzerfaust
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Sorry, but they literally sucked the soul out the eyes. The resplendent gleam has completely gone out the window. Did they think to get even a little feedback before making these changes? I can understand graphical upgrades for environments and such, but it should be a no brainer to at least consider feedback for touching people’s characters. Seriously need a patch to undo this.
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    ‘He who has no expectations will never be disappointed.’

  5. #35
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    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Siren
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Very disappointed that between the eyes and the nose ash they didn't take into consideration any of our feedback for Femroe. I really dislike the look of the new eyes.
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    Last edited by Anarnee; 06-29-2024 at 09:52 AM.

  6. #36
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    You will be missed white eyes that made my roe look blind.. Now she just look normalish and well i don't hate it? But it did take some of the roleplay ideas i had out of her look.. That mixed with lipstick not fully matching the lip shape, i will still stay as one since there is no other race with the same physique that i like.
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  7. #37
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    Skotyrfedar Dzemael
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 100
    One year later and we still have horrible eyes despite extensive feedback.
    I have no hope they'll ever fix this because we're the lowest played race.

    Add in the rest of the issues with the racial identity of hellsguard being butchered and they might as well have deleted the option to even have them in game.



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    ローエンガルデはその人種的特徴を維持する資格がある。CBU3は女性ルガディンのノーズ灰と黒目の瞳孔を調整してください。 私たちはゼーヴォルフ族ではありません。

  8. #38
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Siren
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    Just wanted to say, while I love the changes to the face, this is still a big issue for me and I hope it will be fixed sometime. The dark pupils still changes the overall impression of the eyes, and I would like some way to be able to have light pupils again.
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  9. #39
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    Skotyrfedar Dzemael
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    We're heading in the right direction — the adjustments to the sculptures alone has brought a lot of recognition to femroe again, and while I do want to see hellsguard nose marks/smudges/rhinariums darkened further again they at least look less like a weird shadow.





    All we need now is our coloured pupils back and some normal map adjustments. We just got a NPC in the raid series who has coloured pupils, they're still available on some of the M!roe, F!highlander, and F!elezen faces, it can be done and would make the whole look much more polished.

    I'm incredibly grateful and lucky, honestly, given other feedback since 7.1 for other races so far, to have Sko & Wyta mostly back, and while the developers are receptive to it we must keep giving feedback.

    (I've, as usual, been mostly lurking JP side and giving feedback there. Seems to have done something given our small playerbase.)
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    ローエンガルデはその人種的特徴を維持する資格がある。CBU3は女性ルガディンのノーズ灰と黒目の瞳孔を調整してください。 私たちはゼーヴォルフ族ではありません。

  10. #40
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    Biddy Batnana
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 94
    Quote Originally Posted by faiarrow View Post
    We're heading in the right direction — the adjustments to the sculptures alone has brought a lot of recognition to femroe again, and while I do want to see hellsguard nose marks/smudges/rhinariums darkened further again they at least look less like a weird shadow.





    All we need now is our coloured pupils back and some normal map adjustments. We just got a NPC in the raid series who has coloured pupils, they're still available on some of the M!roe, F!highlander, and F!elezen faces, it can be done and would make the whole look much more polished.

    I'm incredibly grateful and lucky, honestly, given other feedback since 7.1 for other races so far, to have Sko & Wyta mostly back, and while the developers are receptive to it we must keep giving feedback.

    (I've, as usual, been mostly lurking JP side and giving feedback there. Seems to have done something given our small playerbase.)
    Awww they reduced the philtrum, I'm sad.
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