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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I'd like to request you create your own thread if you want to discuss the voice actor. My topic is about the character's writing and role in the story. I'd prefer this not turn into an identity politics/locked thread. Thank you.
    I wasn't even the one who brought it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Very optimistic of you to expect people to pick up the game again in a year.
    You wanna bet? These forums are an echo chamber of negativity because it's the closest this game has to customer complaints. If you hang out here long enough you're gonna end up convincing yourself that everyone hates the game which is just untrue.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thayos View Post
    You do have to admit that for a small portion of the playerbase these two things are one and the same, even if they'll never admit it. That's just the sad state of things these days.

    If I seem annoying - I've been around for months of Sena/VA threads getting locked and a good number of posters banned. Supporters were also banned, not just people who dislike Wuk. Those threads brought out the worst in people here.

    No one was really talking about that aspect that I saw so I'm just trying to avoid that here. Fans/supporters may want to post about it in the Wuk fan club thread perhaps if they are discussing it there or make a thread if they want to go down that road again.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 10-26-2024 at 07:15 AM. Reason: Fixing the quote

  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post

    As for the larger theme of the thread here... whether players like her or not, Wuk Lamat is an important person in the space where the story is currently operating, and I would much rather see her participation brought to a logical conclusion than swept away prematurely in response to complaints.
    Yeah. It'd be weird for her to not be in the story at all.
    I expect she'll follow a similar arc to Lyse, and be around while we're directly dealing with issues in her home land but not for much else.

    Edit: Maybe in response to the feedback SE will have us hang out more with other characters instead of just her. But I don't think it's reasonable to expect no interactions with her at all.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I figured, but considering the writing for a patch MSQ is like a total of 1 hour of content, and they now take 4 to 5 months per patch, I hoped they could have course corrected just a tad.
    Considering SE moves at a glacier's pace when it comes to any sort of adjustments or feedback responses. Yeah...

    Granted, in this particular case, it's not just the writing they'd have to scrap but animation, VA and etc. It's not like a balance change that is mostly numbers, thus warranting more criticism when they take forever and a day to address. That being said, I'm very tempted to just hit ESC throughout 7.1 for the first time through a MSQ patch release. I just can't be bothered with Wuk Lamat scene hogging.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I figured, but considering the writing for a patch MSQ is like a total of 1 hour of content, and they now take 4 to 5 months per patch, I hoped they could have course corrected just a tad.
    Maybe they did. As I said a few month ago, the story was probably already set, but there is a possibility that they might have tweaked what they could. Like WL would still be there but they but other characters getting the spotlight during the quests, without totally removing it, or reworking the script. We still don't know. This whole thread is kinda making a moutain of one screenshot. The complete absence of W.L. was something that never was going to happen in 7.1, and those who thought so are delusionnal.
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    I honestly feel like Wuk Lamat is the best thing that happened to this forum, half of the enjoyment over here seems to hate her guts and her voice actor as much as possible.

    That being said it's a nothing complaint, Wuk Lamat won't stay after 7.3, so all you haters have to do is wait until then to pick up the game again if you feel like she ruins the experience this much.
    Why does bad and awful writing for a Mary sue character is the best thing that happened to this forum ? The character is the most boring goody two shoes we had since ages. She can do nothing wrong and character bend over backwards to fit wuks character. How can you make a decent character introduction and drive it so bad against the wall. Like how can you make a character so despised by a majority of people for an around 15 hour story arc when she has the most lines.

    Wuks voice actor and in general the English VA direction is abysmally bad. Like the last trial that is supposed to be the highlight of the Expansion made me almost pierce my eardrums with a metal rod after the famous “Sphene listen to me” part. Doesn’t help that wuks VA is also a sh*tty human being and takes valid criticism as phobia talk. Or calls people racist for not liking a song and calling it “black gospel” when it isn’t even that (A PR Nightmare in any normal case but not for LGBTQ people as we can see because we had the same thing happening before but with a singer and if I remember correctly that person only liked some stuff on twitter year and years ago and got mob cancelled)


    We will see because from the way they aggressively try to force wuk on use we could have a bad written black hole sue for longer.
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  7. #107
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    Oh I get to post again coz of free logins lol and checking out the forums it seems the Wuk discourse is still present and coming back for 7.1 xD

    People that say they can't pivot the story obviously only had FFXIV as their only game (in 5+ months of production no less lol) and has no experience or knowledge of how good the production value of other live-service games are today

    I am definitely not buying or subbing anymore, Yoshi-P and the dev team is so out of touch and the quality is awful
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    We will see because from the way they aggressively try to force wuk on use we could have a bad written black hole sue for longer.
    The salt is REAL.

    I found her to be fine, this is her story and I enjoyed it. It's the best thing that's happened to these forums because people like you really love to moan and whine about her nonstop.

    I don't want them to drop her and skew the story just because a couple of people dislike her, I want them to finish it and move on.
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  9. #109
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    Honestly. I think it was a mistake to make your overall enjoyment of Dawntrail hinge on whether or not you enjoy Wuk as a character. Because if you dislike her too bad so sad - deal with it till the credits roll.

    While I personally fancied her - and my dislike of Dawntrail revolves around the overall plot - I can understand why folks are sick of her outright.
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    Last edited by xxmiamorecadenza; 10-26-2024 at 02:22 PM.

  10. #110
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    'but wuk lamat is such a complex and great character. pls give her another chance, im sure you gonna like her'... doesnt sound like they wann have any less wuk lamat anytime soon
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