Why Erenville succeeded as a character where others did not

[Cleretic]

Yes, there is no argument here. Emet-Selch, in the guise of Emperor Solus, had at least two children.

And frankly, I'm surprised he went for a second.

Although I suppose if you're engineering your empire to melt down in the most horrible way possible, you want at least two children to fight over the throne when you're gone.

[SannaR]

And frankly, I'm surprised he went for a second.

Although I suppose if you're engineering your empire to melt down in the most horrible way possible, you want at least two children to fight over the throne when you're gone.

The man was just sticking to the tried and tested approach of an heir and a spare. Either way the whole he was Erenville's father thing makes no sense for a person like Emet-Selch. He chided a dead Lahabreha for his frequent body hopping. The man would have needed to ditch and secure his solus body before going to Tural, or go to Tural ditch and secure it there before finding a suitable male Viera body. Then hook up with Cahciua and leave everything to chance that she becomes pregnant to what have a kid for no apparent reason? Let's not forget that he probably would have spent time and energy on transforming said Viera's face and vocal cords as the man was extremely sentimental and what changes he did to a body as a reminder of his sense of self. It wouldn't fit him at all considering that he prided himself on doing everything to not waste his energy or power. Not to mention how he was a very busy man in the early days of making the republic into an Empire. Making a lot of public appearances and taking part in some of the earlier battles. I know that Astronema most likely meant it as a joke and that it was probably said as a joke theory to begin with but just the premise of it is just so ludicrous.

[Cleretic]

The man was just sticking to the tried and tested approach of an heir and a spare. Either way the whole he was Erenville's father thing makes no sense for a person like Emet-Selch. He chided a dead Lahabreha for his frequent body hopping. The man would have needed to ditch and secure his solus body before going to Tural, or go to Tural ditch and secure it there before finding a suitable male Viera body. Then hook up with Cahciua and leave everything to chance that she becomes pregnant to what have a kid for no apparent reason? Let's not forget that he probably would have spent time and energy on transforming said Viera's face and vocal cords as the man was extremely sentimental and what changes he did to a body as a reminder of his sense of self. It wouldn't fit him at all considering that he prided himself on doing everything to not waste his energy or power. Not to mention how he was a very busy man in the early days of making the republic into an Empire. Making a lot of public appearances and taking part in some of the earlier battles. I know that Astronema most likely meant it as a joke and that it was probably said as a joke theory to begin with but just the premise of it is just so ludicrous.

Also putting all this aside, Cahciua can do better. This either implies Cahciua can be completely swept off her feet by a literal nobody, wouldn't notice a partner having been body-hijacked, or wouldn't recognize the Garlean Emperor. And I don't think she's dumb enough or desperate enough for any of those.

[Astronema]

Some points to consider.
What info do we even have on hybrid races anyway? Is it possible for cross species to reproduce. An Ascian could do it probably.
Changing ones face only or using a glamour would be possible we glamour stuff all the time.

I'm more open minded on things like this because I have played Star wars the Old Republic.
In that story the emperor thought his current empire was a failure only producing one true sith Darth jadus.
He secretly created a second superior empire. The guy was committing adultery on his empire.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tenebrae

[Cleretic]

What info do we even have on hybrid races anyway? Is it possible for cross species to reproduce.

Arenvald. Severa. Hilda. Yes it is plenty possible. It's not common, but it seems that's more for social reasons than anything; multiracial relationships just don't happen all that often in FFXIV's world, mostly for cultural and societal reasons. Understandable when you consider examples like hrothgar and suncats who don't have especially compatible cultural views.

At the time Erenville would've been conceived, Cahciua was on the other side of the world from Emperor Solus, who was a very busy man who also didn't actually like people all that much. (And was in his sixties, of a race that has human-level aging, which isn't exactly a red card but is definitely a yellow one.) This idea is a bad idea, because it doesn't work for either of the active characters on any level, and adds nothing to any of the three characters involved except for make Cahciua look really bad for the reasons I've already said. I don't care what Star Wars stories you read where that makes sense; in this one, it doesn't.

[SannaR]

Don't forget the one half Au Ra and Hyur child that we heard of. Where they were an Au Ra but with just less scales. Heck this expansion we get told and shown what two different clans of the same race look like and how rare those children not only are born but survive just being born. So even if two races can be compatible it is highly unlikely that it would happen even if it was a socially acceptable to try and have more mixed races. (Solus would have been almost 50 if he didn't high jack a Viera body as Erenville is 25 and the game starts five years after the last given date in the 1st E E.) Either way it wouldn't make any sense for either character to have met let alone choose to have a one night stand.

[Banggugyangu]

Some points to consider.
What info do we even have on hybrid races anyway? Is it possible for cross species to reproduce. An Ascian could do it probably.
Changing ones face only or using a glamour would be possible we glamour stuff all the time.

I'm more open minded on things like this because I have played Star wars the Old Republic.
In that story the emperor thought his current empire was a failure only producing one true sith Darth jadus.
He secretly created a second superior empire. The guy was committing adultery on his empire.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tenebrae

Just look at the Loporitz...

[Cleretic]

Don't forget the one half Au Ra and Hyur child that we heard of. Where they were an Au Ra but with just less scales. Heck this expansion we get told and shown what two different clans of the same race look like and how rare those children not only are born but survive just being born. So even if two races can be compatible it is highly unlikely that it would happen even if it was a socially acceptable to try and have more mixed races. (Solus would have been almost 50 if he didn't high jack a Viera body as Erenville is 25 and the game starts five years after the last given date in the 1st E E.) Either way it wouldn't make any sense for either character to have met let alone choose to have a one night stand.

I left out the Ruby Prince, becuase I assumed Astronema wouldn't know who that is.

The Blessed Siblings' whole infant mortality situation I think is exclusive to Mamool Ja. Remember that the group that's told this and seems surprised includes multiple Scions, who are generally smart sorts and know Arenvald at the very least (I think Alphinaud might know Hilda, that'd require cross-referencing scenes that I'm not gonna do); if this was a problem that every single multiracial relationship had then it wouldn't have been a shock to them.

[Iscah]

Heck this expansion we get told and shown what two different clans of the same race look like and how rare those children not only are born but survive just being born. So even if two races can be compatible it is highly unlikely that it would happen even if it was a socially acceptable to try and have more mixed races.

As Cleretic said, the high mortality is likely to be a secondary result of the hatchlings being mutants rather than just because they're mixed clan. The human-like races clearly can have mixed-race children with the normal number of heads.

There is still quite likely a practical aspect to avoiding having children with other races, though – different adaptations could clash in weird ways that are hard on the child, so it might be a deliberate decision to avoid that.

[SannaR]

As Cleretic said, the high mortality is likely to be a secondary result of the hatchlings being mutants rather than just because they're mixed clan. The human-like races clearly can have mixed-race children with the normal number of heads.

There is still quite likely a practical aspect to avoiding having children with other races, though – different adaptations could clash in weird ways that are hard on the child, so it might be a deliberate decision to avoid that.

Oh it definitely isn't a normal result, but we don't know what other rare outcomes. Just look at the animal kingdom where we know that sort of thing can happen but the pregnancy doesn't come to term. Or the baby ends up being sterile like a mule. Not that any of this matters as none of this is related to the topic of the thread. Unless someone is going to suggest that the reason Erenville was well developed was cause of this crap theory.