FF14 director Yoshida asks fans not to “attack” Wuk Lamat actress

[Thurmnmurmn]

Not what I'm saying, but go off mate.



Well yeah. The shirt mentions transphobes, so... am I missing something here? Have ya'll just been reacting without actually looking at what the shirt says?

Being against death jokes means we're transphobic now?
I make some dark jokes on occasion but it's always with me as the subject. Calling death on others, joke or not, is still a big ol' nope from me. Doesn't matter what group of people you're talking about.

It's also kinda ironic how Yoshida says to not send death threats (the topic of this thread), yet you're in here saying death jokes are no problem. By that same logic, maybe the death threats were actually jokes so we shouldn't worry about those right?

[undull1]

I remember the advertising of trusts, not as a waste of development resources but as a new option for those single player fans who are anxious about playing with humans but still.....want to play an MMO.

I remember during the WOW exodus when converted content creators gave half-baked comments during the lead up to endwalker on liking the sympathetic villain approach (Which was arguably never a constant to begin with), then suddenly odd rewrites and retcons occur and a sudden last-minute sympathetic villain in meteon appears.

I remember the awkward live letter where they tried to defend Yoshi-p's desire to include NFT's (How did that end up going btw?).

I remember Yoshi-p's comments regarding classical jobs and how he wanted to move away from them to attract newer audiences.

I remember Yoshi-p wanting to make the game more like fortnite and subsequently adding a low-effort fall guys crossover.

I remember online Yoshi-p interviews where writers lauded the success of endwalkers subpar patch content despite them being dead on arrival.

I remember the unusual announcement of Xbox support despite the clear mismatch of audiences.

I remember Yoshi-p suggesting plans to make South american data centres in the leadup to Dawntrail as if the expansion would be so beloved for it's cultural representation that it would overcome the country's excessive videogame taxes, economic woes and the expensive nature of monthly sub costs on top of expansion pricing and overpriced cosmetics.

The point I'm trying to get at is that from my own perception, the FFXIV team seems to be constantly trying to attract new audiences rather than consolidating it's current playerbase. This is the nature of big corporations even if it's dishonest Yoshi-p will say whatever it takes to project the illusion of prosperity to a crowd of wide-eyed suckers (Myself included).

This is why when I see Sena Bryer, I see somebody who has been typecast, not for their talent to play the role in game but for the publicity and exposure to LGBTQ+ gamers they would bring from being trans. Like really genuinely, even if you love everything about her performance please understand that an exceptional portion of people find it lacking compared to every other voice role in the game, whether it's down to her acting talent or poor direction the result is still subpar.

This would also be barely worth mention if Sena as a public figure did not keep posting bigoted things on twitter to inflame people, the professional response would be to humble yourself, admit there were some issues with the performance (Even if you don't agree, sorry but life be like that, inflated ego's do not make you many friends in any industry) and springboard to bigger better things with that exposure and experience on your resume.

Not....trying to frame your own audience as a secret racist cult as a gotcha on twitter or whatever that smile comment was supposed to be, like really....just really...

[Ayan_Calvesse]

Not what I'm saying, but go off mate.



Well yeah. The shirt mentions transphobes, so... am I missing something here? Have ya'll just been reacting without actually looking at what the shirt says?

So are you saying that you should only take offense to a call to violence if the call can be targeted to you personally? I want to be clear because if thats the case then it sounds like the arguement is that unless someone is trans; they should not care about the plight of a trans individual which I think we can agree that boiling a person down to one characteristic as a justification for harm or offense is still wrong. It kind of sounds like your saying the shirt is a dogwhistle; which again offends multiple different groups - three I would high-light would be likely christians; transphobes and people that do not condone violence.

To speak to Xylira's comment I think thats her point - the rules of engagement are not really rules if both sides do not follow them.

[Xylira]

To speak to Xylira's comment I think thats her point - the rules of engagement are not really rules if both sides do not follow them.

That was exactly my point. The people that bend over backwards to defend Sena's awful behavior also go out of their way to take any shred of criticism directed toward Sena as being harassment motivated by what they perceive as hatred of a minority group. They're not doing it out of any sense of principle or values, they're doing it because they only care about defending their side.

And to be clear I'm not condoning actual harassment from or to anyone. I just find it extremely distasteful how one sided and hypocritical Sena's defenders are being.

[Willemdarke]

I just find it extremely distasteful how one sided and hypocritical Sena's defenders are being.

That's the part that really bugs me.

The whole "us vs them", "black and white thinking" nonsense. I honestly feel silly that in every topic on this I feel the need to reiterate that I'm LGBTQ myself, lest I'm labeled transphobe too - and even then it's happened!

The hypocrisy is so staggering - within our own LGBTQ community we are actually pretty quick to call out problematic people be they artist, drag performers, or other public figures, because:
#1 Within the community, we can't and don't get labeled homo/transphobe, so we don't fear expressing our non-LGBTQ-related values and following a moral code we believe in and
#2 Those bad public apples represent us still and so they bring unneeded negativity to our whole community.

Yet, when controversy related to an LGBTQ person spills outside the community, it's like some people's moral codes cease to exist and they MUST defend the indefensible, just because it's "our people". (And half the time the defenders aren't even LGBTQ themselves!) No, honey.

Bigot is a bigot is a bigot, regardless of race, gender, sexuality, whatever.

Also, would actually transphobic people be mouthing off on the forums, if Sena wasn't such a toxic person stirring controversy and negativity? No. So why should trans members of the FF14 community have to come across and see this mess? They shouldn't. And they wouldn't, if Sena knew how to behave like a professional adult human on the internet and keep her nasty, rotten opinions to herself.

I don't follow her twitter and all I've seen have been posts of her linked by other people, so there's probably more, but she's advocated for biological woman to lose her job, she's called the FF14 community racists and transphobes, she's thrown shade at Imane Khelif during that whole mess at the Olympics, she's disrespected Christians (which I am one, shocker, I know, who knew gays can be Christian too?) and much more.

Don't defend the indefensible.

[Cach]

The guy that originally saved the game is barely there anymore.
Only "company man" Yoshida remains. Gotta deal with that reality now.

As much as I enjoy some culture war slapfight, I'm honestly more worried about the global gaming landscape lately and if/when Square is going to catch some heat.

[Wingale]

I don't like Wuk Lamut as a character, not her VA aspect (though her voice acting is bad). Attacking or harassing the VA and the staff is unacceptable and inhumane.
But, Wuk Lamut's VA (Sena Bryer) is quite self-center herself. She got high ego and bad mouth about those who disagree her ideas. My friend in social mention that she even tell the Bridget (from Guilty Gears: Strive) voice actor should step down because the VA is not trans and not fitting the character (Bridget is trans character in mentioned game).

There's rumor that Sena is invite to cast the character without audition by the English director for DEI hire. Take this rumor for a grain of salt.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Another 17 pages of Wuk Lamat/Sena. Will have to browse when i get some free time lol.

[gllt]

If anyone sees this post after the last expansion for the game gets it's last patch:

Hello! The game is probably good now. I hope you're having fun with it.
Are we forums better now too? Or just as absurd? I'd love to know!

Sincerely, some poster from 2024

[Savagelf]

woke is on it way out trust me. i must also remind Yoshi P the importance say you once said that the goal of mmo is to make the player the hero you said this after 2.0 came out Wuk Lamar fail this test she stole the main character story you reduce the main charcter aka the WoL to side character in her or his own story realize the fans are just remind you of your own saying
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he even state that mmorpg have fail to make the player be hero of story after 2.0

see dawntrail as lesson and a way remember they lesson for 2.0