The real reason there are even subscribers in 2024

[Voidmage]

Hoyo wouldn't make an MMO, Tower of Fantasy proved that a gacha based MMO would not work well for a majority of people. Launch scandal aside it's not a fun concept in the long run as someone who does still semi-regularly play it, as you're basically required to get multiple copies of characters to even push large damage numbers. Feels weird in an MMO environment where gear/skill should ultimately be the defining factor of how strong you are, not how large your wallet is/how lucky you are.

I know HoYo probably won’t make an mmo (even though I think they are the only ones who could combine good gacha with it without it being predatory).
It was just an example of the fact that there is actually no one who can really be a competition to ff14 right now because all others are too different, be it art style or storytelling.
I’m not saying Hoyo is better but that ff14 could actually learn from looking what other games do in some aspects.
And as sad as it is. When I compare Wuk Lamat to any of the Fontaine characters she falls flatter than the earth in some tinfoil brains.

FF14 actually needs competition in my opinion but there is none and that’s the big danger.

Most people don't see this on their screen unless they run Mare.

It's kinda sad when people are just so used to mods that they can't see anything beyond that anymore.


For me as an RPer and casual Crafter/Gatherer, it's... that. RP, crafting gathering.

This may be an unpopular opinion but in my eyes mods are part of the problem.
The people just fix stuff like hats themself instead of demanding that from the devs.
It’s crazy how fast the community can throw out good looking hairstyles while the devs can only be bothered to half ass one every few years.
When was the last time we got a good looking hairstyle? Bozja?

Those pictures while creepy are just the most extreme.
If my time with Skyrim modding is any indication then most people mod only little things like ears, makeup or hair, maybe some outfits but normally not like in those screenshots.

[TBerry]

This may be an unpopular opinion but in my eyes mods are part of the problem.
The people just fix stuff like hats themself instead of demanding that from the devs.
It’s crazy how fast the community can throw out good looking hairstyles while the devs can only be bothered to half ass one every few years.
When was the last time we got a good looking hairstyle? Bozja?

Those pictures while creepy are just the most extreme.
If my time with Skyrim modding is any indication then most people mod only little things like ears, makeup or hair, maybe some outfits but normally not like in those screenshots.

I get what you're saying, and I agree, but my point is, if you're just a mismatched mess while you expect everyone to see what you see, and without any desscription or explanation (which RP hinges on), it's just sad.

[LianaThorne]

I know HoYo probably won’t make an mmo (even though I think they are the only ones who could combine good gacha with it without it being predatory).
It was just an example of the fact that there is actually no one who can really be a competition to ff14 right now because all others are too different, be it art style or storytelling.
I’m not saying Hoyo is better but that ff14 could actually learn from looking what other games do in some aspects.
And as sad as it is. When I compare Wuk Lamat to any of the Fontaine characters she falls flatter than the earth in some tinfoil brains.

FF14 actually needs competition in my opinion but there is none and that’s the big danger.


This may be an unpopular opinion but in my eyes mods are part of the problem.
The people just fix stuff like hats themself instead of demanding that from the devs.
It’s crazy how fast the community can throw out good looking hairstyles while the devs can only be bothered to half ass one every few years.
When was the last time we got a good looking hairstyle? Bozja?

Those pictures while creepy are just the most extreme.
If my time with Skyrim modding is any indication then most people mod only little things like ears, makeup or hair, maybe some outfits but normally not like in those screenshots.

I think it's a cause and effect thing.

People have been asking for years for the devs to add/fix things, Viera hats included (I joined during 5.2 and people were asking for them then prior to mods exploding). I think after a while some just got tired of waiting for the customization they wanted and now we're here. I don't think it's necessarily fair to blame them for the issues existing but I agree now that Square might just not care to improve on things since modders will do it for them.

[TDawnstar]

The people just fix stuff like hats themself instead of demanding that from the devs.

Because the devs don't care? It took a widespread use of third party tools before SE devs finally decided to (gasp) put the cooldown number in the center of the damn button and make it bigger. And show the remaining buff/debuff duration on the party UI.