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  1. #381
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PorxiesRCute View Post
    lmao I've spent more time (unpaid!) moderating for-fun fandom forums than these mods have spent on this one.
    I volunteered to moderate a game's community server some time back.

    I got treated better by the players themselves than the moderation and administration team I was a part of. (Was like working with competing high-schoolers and the proverbial "principal" refused to established a proper order and structure to things.)

    Never again. Was somehow substantially more stressful than my actual job.
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  2. #382
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    Quote Originally Posted by PorxiesRCute View Post
    Since this forum clearly has no mods, what's you guys's favorite RMT websites?
    Just ask HighlanderClone, or titan men, or skiros, or brofists, or sparklyastrologian, or whatever new account he's using today. I'm sure he can direct you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    Let's be real here for a second:
    The kind of people who use "woke" unironically usually aren't... the best kind of people.
    There is a similar term to woke in German, and it's "Gutmensch", a term often used by extremely conservative, far-right and Neo-Nazis to defame left or left-leaning. Most of those people are usually bigots.

    You use woke unironically you set yourself up for mockery, or being called a bigot, or both.
    The kind of people who say this are the kind of people who first took the term, popularised it, used it to death and now complain about its usage when criticised for doing things that once upon a time, you'd have called "woke" unironically. The term originated in American Black culture and referred to someone being racially aware, "awake" to the systemic racial problems... And then it was appropriated by extreme left activists and extended to any sort of awareness of oppression. Being "woke" used to be a good thing for them, it used to be a badge to signal to each other that you're both on the same wavelength. The entire reason the opposition from the centre and from the right uses the term is because the left popularised it, and now you're trying to disavow the term as some right-wing dogwhistle. This is the bed that the left-wing activists made for themselves, and now they don't want to sleep in it.
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  4. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickPaws View Post
    The kind of people who say this are the kind of people who first took the term, popularised it, used it to death and now complain about its usage when criticised for doing things that once upon a time, you'd have called "woke" unironically. The term originated in American Black culture and referred to someone being racially aware, "awake" to the systemic racial problems... And then it was appropriated by extreme left activists and extended to any sort of awareness of oppression. Being "woke" used to be a good thing for them, it used to be a badge to signal to each other that you're both on the same wavelength. The entire reason the opposition from the centre and from the right uses the term is because the left popularised it, and now you're trying to disavow the term as some right-wing dogwhistle. This is the bed that the left-wing activists made for themselves, and now they don't want to sleep in it.
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  5. #385
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    Is this about FF anymore, or did I accidentally stumble into r/Politics?
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  6. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachion View Post
    If marginalized groups tolerate their intolerant oppressors, the oppressors ultimately eliminate the marginalized groups and their tolerance with it.
    Explaining me what ''paradox of tolerance'' is don't make it less of an hypocrite excuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tachion View Post
    It obviously doesn't have to be in a literal sense of killing them, but limiting or flat out removing any agency they have.
    Yea you see when they tried that out in the US after the civil war, The south response to being sanctioned and having some agency removed was to ignore the anti-slavery law and to create KKK.

    But you know, When MLK did protest peacefully all while tolerating people targeting him, it shifted the majority of the population opinion and now racist group in America lost tons of power and pressure and are now rightfully considered as bigots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tachion View Post
    It's really not a difficult concept to grasp but you'll do Simone Biles level mental gymnastics to rationalize why people should just accept your prejudices.
    What mental gymnastics? You're the one brining up excuses to disguise the fact you can't even folow your own definition of tolerance.
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  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickPaws View Post
    The kind of people who say this are the kind of people who first took the term, popularised it, used it to death and now complain about its usage when criticised for doing things that once upon a time, you'd have called "woke" unironically. The term originated in American Black culture and referred to someone being racially aware, "awake" to the systemic racial problems... And then it was appropriated by extreme left activists and extended to any sort of awareness of oppression. Being "woke" used to be a good thing for them, it used to be a badge to signal to each other that you're both on the same wavelength. The entire reason the opposition from the centre and from the right uses the term is because the left popularised it, and now you're trying to disavow the term as some right-wing dogwhistle. This is the bed that the left-wing activists made for themselves, and now they don't want to sleep in it.
    Conveniently ignoring the thread title and first post.
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  8. #388
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    It may sound direct, but it's also true. I was actually worried for another poster in the past who showed very clear signs of needing help. I thought these forums were a terrible place for her, since people made fun of her or prodded her along to act out more and more.

    I don't recommend being personally vulnerable here because for better or worse the forums have a somewhat aggressive culture that is easy to fall into, and one won't often find much kindness and compassion - especially in a controversial thread.
    True and I can totally get behind that.

    Being actually worried is not what I was talking about. I was talking about the spiteful use of mental illness as some kind of insult against people as a whole. I don't condone that, but I can also see that, while there are some people here who I commend about being civil about this and showing their genuine concern about the poster who was vulnerable in here, there are some who think it's a-okay to go after another minority by using these kinds of illnesses as a funny way to get quick cheap laughs.

    I guess I'll stop this now, I wanted those people to maybe think about their choice of words, since they claim to be concerned with the wellbeing of minorities.

    As for this being a game forum, yes. It is. That doesn't change we're all humans behind our screen and should try to be civil.

    Over and out /waves

    Quick Edit:

    Quote Originally Posted by angienessyo View Post
    I'm not using go to therapy as an insult. I myself have been to therapy for my own issues in the past. Considering what this person's posts are talking about, they do actually need to get some help to deal with a lot of their rage over something personal that happened to them. They're currently dealing with it in a way that's destructive.
    This is what I mean by being genuinely concerned. This is okay. Using words like 'shizo' to pull someone down is not.
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    Last edited by Aniise; 08-06-2024 at 01:26 AM.
    Me too, Erenville, me too

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  10. #389
    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopsheezi View Post
    Is this about FF anymore, or did I accidentally stumble into r/Politics?
    I mean the topic title itself complaining about "wokeness" should have tipped you off before you even walked in.
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  11. #390
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    I mean the topic title itself complaining about "wokeness" should have tipped you off before you even walked in.
    Yeah, but it at least STARTED on topic.
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