Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[smitten_miquitten]

Not getting ANY feedback on the bugs, whether they're Accepted or moved elsewhere, is so so frustrating. No indication on fix timelines, no indication if a thing actually is going to be fixed, how that fix might be addressed, etc.

I wrote another bug about the Amaurot style aetherytes because only the Elpis ones got updated, and it got moved to "Unable to Verify" despite clear screenshots, and I can't add clearer screenshots because you can't edit or add to bugs after they're moved Which is so stupid because that particular bug is extremely easy to verify!
Go to Elpis, see shiny aetheryte. Go to the Moon, Amaurot, or Ondo Cups and see the 100% un-updated aetherytes. Ez pz. I just don't get it.

Pics so yall don't think I'm nuts:

Elpis


Moon

[Daralii]

Not getting ANY feedback on the bugs, whether they're Accepted or moved elsewhere, is so so frustrating. No indication on fix timelines, no indication if a thing actually is going to be fixed, how that fix might be addressed, etc.

I wrote another bug about the Amaurot style aetherytes because only the Elpis ones got updated, and it got moved to "Unable to Verify" despite clear screenshots, and I can't add clearer screenshots because you can't edit or add to bugs after they're made Which is so stupid because that particular bug is extremely easy to verify! Go to Elpis, see shiny aetheryte. Go to the Moon, Amaurot, or Ondo Cups and see the 100% un-updated aetherytes. Ez pz. I just don't get it.

The accepted pile is likely a tossup between "we are now aware and are investigating internally" and "we're pretending to care so that you hopefully stop talking".

[Moonfallen]

Not getting ANY feedback on the bugs, whether they're Accepted or moved elsewhere, is so so frustrating. No indication on fix timelines, no indication if a thing actually is going to be fixed, how that fix might be addressed, etc.

I wrote another bug about the Amaurot style aetherytes because only the Elpis ones got updated, and it got moved to "Unable to Verify" despite clear screenshots, and I can't add clearer screenshots because you can't edit or add to bugs after they're moved Which is so stupid because that particular bug is extremely easy to verify!
Go to Elpis, see shiny aetheryte. Go to the Moon, Amaurot, or Ondo Cups and see the 100% un-updated aetherytes. Ez pz. I just don't get it.

Pics so yall don't think I'm nuts:

Elpis


Moon

I wonder if making a gif of the aetheryte in Elpis and one elsewhere would help them "verify" it better.

[smitten_miquitten]

No one's coming to the forums with positive feedback. The truth is the vast majority of people seem to enjoy the update (tune in to any random vod/stream of someone playing right after the update). The people who enjoy the graphics, enjoy the game don't need to come into the forum. This place is purely to grumble and complain lol.
The new textures/lighting/character updates are *chef's kiss*
Change is scary but eventually you'll come to accept your character in glorious high definition!

They literally turned my white eyebrows dark grey for no reason, making them invisible on my character's darker skin. That's not a high definition improvement, that's a bug. There are MANY issues just like it being brought up here. They didn't just press a "make it hi-def!" button and make everything shiny, they moved a lot of stuff around and the quality control on doing so is pretty lax. There are animation issues, holes where the hair and skull used to meet, visible seams between neck and body, swapped textures between different clans, etc.

They're using the playerbase as QA and then not communicating with us.

[smitten_miquitten]

I wonder if making a gif of the aetheryte in Elpis and one elsewhere would help them "verify" it better.

I would but I'm on PS5, not super sure how to go about doing that. And unfortunately I can't add to the original bug now that it's moved

[Moonfallen]

I would but I'm on PS5, not super sure how to go about doing that. And unfortunately I can't add to the original bug now that it's moved

I can probably make one for you when I come around later unless I get beat to it.

[smitten_miquitten]

Oh gosh, ty!

[Cheapshot]

No one's coming to the forums with positive feedback. The truth is the vast majority of people seem to enjoy the update (tune in to any random vod/stream of someone playing right after the update). The people who enjoy the graphics, enjoy the game don't need to come into the forum. This place is purely to grumble and complain lol.
The new textures/lighting/character updates are *chef's kiss*
Change is scary but eventually you'll come to accept your character in glorious high definition!

I put so much effort and thought into quite a few of my posts here, and someone always comes and reads two sentences at the top or bottom and replies without reading anything else I wrote or even understanding what the part they did read means. It’s disheartening and frustrating. Your impression of the overall response is anecdotal, like the two sentences you quoted said. That’s the first point I was making. Your singular observations are not reliable data. We shouldn’t be making arguments that rely on saying “most people think it’s better” vs “most people think it’s not” because we don’t know that one way or the other. I don’t assume I’m in either the majority or minority in my feelings about the changes. I don’t make any sweeping generalizations or assumptions in any of my feedback. I try to offer feedback that is based on objective information and suggestions that accommodate the most people possible for that reason. If you didn’t follow that, I don’t know how further discussion would go but for what it’s worth, there was much more to my post. The third part especially was the main response to the person I was replying to.

[Cheapshot]

A followup point: Even, for sake of argument, if we did somehow know the majority of players specifically liked the new facial feature shapes better, the response shouldn’t be to just ignore those who don’t. Always ignoring the minority is a path to eventual disaster. If you always ignore feedback if it appears to be from a minority of players, then you keep shaving off groups of player base until eventually a minority of your original player base is all you have left. Devs should always be looking to see if there are solutions that can appease upset players without compromising their vision or principles or upsetting the ones who are currently happy. Is that difficult? Of course. But that’s the job. It’s why this is a paid service game.

Expanding the CC to include closer HD matches to the original facial shapes, toggles or selection for things like makeup and lipgloss, while also fixing obvious bugs is one such solution that can likely satisfy a lot of people. Taking this opportunity to improve the dated character creator can both benefit the longevity of the game while also making a lot of upset players happier to see their familiar faces returned.

[faiarrow]

Change is scary but eventually you'll come to accept your character in glorious high definition!

Sure, I can enjoy my character in HD when my character looks like my character again.

Hellsguard have more or less been erased from their core design of 10 years with their racial traits being shaved, debulked, female roe having all their eyes made the same and hyuran across the board with the loss of the coloured pupils, and the nose ash made so light they look like an erroneous shadow on the nose tip in 99% of lighting.

This isn't the change I've paid a sub + expansion pack costs for the last 9 years for. The radio silence from SQEX is pretty damning right now.