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  1. #1771
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    Sure, brilliant take.

    You're so much better than me, please teach me more.
    I just want to warn you that there are some people who come here to attack and belittle others, then report them when they get a response out of them. Some people aren't worth the time.
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  2. #1772
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post

    Transphobes don't get their excuses for being vile pieces of human trash because they're called out being transphobes.
    I really want to speak for LGBTQ, but it's really hard to do so when people equate not abiding perferred pronouns to deserved to be called "vile pieces of human trash."

    I said it before. I'll say it again. People who preach love and acceptance are usually most vitriolic to others.

    It makes me wonder: Are people really that loving and caring, or do they just want to score social points by appearing morally superior so they can justify their toxic behavior?


    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    They get it because they think they can get away with it, as it makes them feel superior, and online there are no consequences.
    The reverse is also true. People can get away with slander, intimidation, and false accusation as long as they fight under the banner of love, peace, and acceptance, which happen to be spearheaded by LGBTQIA+ community.


    Transgenderism is a topic much more complex than LGB( lesbian, gay, bisexual). It challenges the concept of binary sex. Transition also requires medical intervention. It's only natural people will have questions about it. There are still rooms for debate.

    People not subscribing to the idea of preferred pronouns does not necessay mean they want transgender people to cease existing. The latter one being true transphobia. Pronouns is what it is, pronouns. If you want to convince people into thinking refusing to use preferred pronouns is inherently transphobic, you have to first establish the reason why.

    Is it disrespectful? Why is it disrepectful? Does subjectively feeling disrepected justify your demand? Does pronoun has power to invalidate one's gender identity?

    Without building a common ground where both parties can agree on basic definition of things, people will NOT be persuaded into thinking they're disrespectful to trans by NOT abiding preferred pronouns. Therefore, they don't think they're transphobic.

    Transphobe has been overly used so much that it has since lost its meaning. It's one thing to hate transgender people. Not using preferred pronouns is another thing entirely.
    However, It's just my personal opinion. Whether you accept it or not is up to you. hopefully my speech won't invite bigotry and transphobe stickers on my back.


    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Bullies don't magically stop being bullies because you grovel to them. This is usually called appeasement, and it has consistently failed historically.
    Have you heard about cancel cultrue? SBI, a company that openly admitted they run bussiness by blackmailing other companies? It's, in essence, bully. What's your opinion about those bullies?
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    Last edited by Aword3213; 08-01-2024 at 12:48 AM.

  3. #1773
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    Baby Sneed
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    I'm having fun experiencing the game in different languages right now (except english, which is a shame because I adore G'rahas english Va so much...) and I can only encourage everyone to experiment a little!
    At least G'raha is good in German too in my opinion, for me when playing in German I really miss Estinien's English VA, though I guess I wasn't missing that much in this expansion since he only appeared for like 10 minutes, which to be fair is par for the course for Estinien in showing up out of nowhere, being a complete badass for a few scenes, and then leaving without elaborating further
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    Formerly Baby Chuck

  4. #1774
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    As someone that speaks English and Spanish, I find it criminal there is no Spanish VA for DT.
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  5. #1775
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    As someone that speaks English and Spanish, I find it criminal there is no Spanish VA for DT.
    I think this specific expansion would have been the best time to add a Spanish cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I think this specific expansion would have been the best time to add a Spanish cast.
    Yes, it seems pretty disrespectful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Amazing that people are still arguing this isn't about transphobia.

    I hope we got EXPONENTIALLY MORE Wuk Lamat just to make them rage and quit.
    I hate Wuk Lamat and think the VA did a bad job but now I want more Wuk Lamat in hopes it drives these bigots away. Good job you weirdos lol
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  8. #1778
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    Zellith Shivaan
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    It's called acting. It's literally people playing pretend. The person doing the talking doesnt need to fit a specific box in rl as long as they do a good job.
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  9. #1779
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I just want to warn you that there are some people who come here to attack and belittle others, then report them when they get a response out of them. Some people aren't worth the time.
    I figured that was the case but sometimes I can't help myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    As someone that speaks English and Spanish, I find it criminal there is no Spanish VA for DT.
    Honestly, the part that annoys me more is that lack of price localizations.

    Yoshi P explained why they couldn't do it yet, but that was before EW's release.
    Please, Yoshi, don't make me have to deal with ridiculous taxes because I want to give you money T_T
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  10. #1780
    Player Karious's Avatar
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    Lmao, I'm absolutely convinced that people are coming in here to just stir the pot. Instead of ignoring transphobic posts and reporting them so they don't have any platform at all, these folks make sure to quote reply the posts and then aggressively reference back to them every chance they get like they desperately need evidence to validate their claims that ALL criticism is just people being bigots. It's tiring.

    And while it is acting, Xellith, Kate did go on record stating she wanted to authentically cast voice actors for the DT roles, and then gives us Wuk's actor... Who isn't authentic at all, and frankly offensive to be putting on a fake accent.
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