Jumping on dead players

[Aravell]

Should be a timewaster and pointless, they put themselves farther behind unless they're intentionally doing that to attack someone's mentality to engage in repeated skirmishes (effectively an aggro strategy using real life provoke).

Mental warfare is a thing in any PvP game. Whoever's mental slips up the most generally lose more games. Don't take it too seriously outside of matches. Everything in PvP is just a game.

It's a risk to take for something that might not even work. If the person you do it to doesn't tilt, you've effectively wasted the time you had to push your team's advantage.

That's why I hate when people do this in ranked matches, it's a waste of time that may or may not yield benefit.

[Oku-1]

I laugh and go "Ah they got me haha well played" like I have done since the first time I was teabagged on Blood Gulch in Halo: Combat Evolved 23 years ago.

[Araxes]

Every time someone does that to me, i actually smile because by that action they reveal that it is a great achievement to them to have killed me 4vsMe. Thus they must think that i am a exceptional player.

They are just super happy that they finally got you so at some point you must have sparked their anger/attention/jealousy.

Also doing squads on a Male character is kind of a selfown especially with a Female character. (You know who you are)

[EponaTBHSMH]

That's just being teabagged, has been happening since the halo/CoD days

[Nith-Bryn]

Wait?
First: Do you guys can see who killed you? Sometimes players don't even load in the screen when playing pvp...you can be literally killed by ghosts. lol

Second: a problem?
Easy one: Hunt them and kill them too. You can make some cute emote to make them feel loved or reflexive. Sometimes you can end up a fight with a hug.
Normal one: Don't take things personally. It's a game like others and enjoy the moment. I'm happy to have random real players do playing it instead of bots literally burning you down in seconds and going kill another. Mortal Kombat literally mocks people with Fatalities. That makes the game more fun. lol
Expert one: Don't die. lol

[Zofian]

The only reason that gesturing of any kind in relation to a downed opponent is a problem is because XIV's PvP is not skill based (just like the rest of the game), nor is it in any way a fair contest. And whilst they will never acknowledge PvP's systemic flaw publicly, they do punish actions on KO'd opponents on that basis.

Having someone celebrate or gloat in any manner because you were KO'd in what is almost entirely a luck-based mode, is the cause of it being annoying. It's entirely possible for 'the gloater' to not even realise that they may have contributed as little as 4% of damage to a KO, amongst 3 of their other teammates. Even in 1v1, the PvP stuff is just too fast of a skill spam to be respectably quantifiable.

No one ever complained in CSGO of such things, because that was a quantifiable game with a set structure (rip 2000-2017). You can try and say 1v1 is fair between 2 of the same job- but positioning doesn't count for anything. You're basically counting on the other person to make a mistake and press a button at the wrong time, do it too slow, or forget altogether. There's no skill ceiling that enables you to do something *better* than someone else. It's either 1 or 0 in XIV, you did something or you didn't. There is no capacity for how and out-howing someone else. And thus having someone emote or jump on you when they didn't out-how you, is annoying. They are celebrating that you didn't press a button at a particular point, akin to celebrating you causing a raid to wipe because you missed a tiny bit of dps or something.

[Vandi]

The only reason that gesturing of any kind in relation to a downed opponent is a problem is because XIV's PvP is not skill based (just like the rest of the game), nor is it in any way a fair contest. And whilst they will never acknowledge PvP's systemic flaw publicly, they do punish actions on KO'd opponents on that basis.

Having someone celebrate or gloat in any manner because you were KO'd in what is almost entirely a luck-based mode, is the cause of it being annoying. It's entirely possible for 'the gloater' to not even realise that they may have contributed as little as 4% of damage to a KO, amongst 3 of their other teammates. Even in 1v1, the PvP stuff is just too fast of a skill spam to be respectably quantifiable.

No one ever complained in CSGO of such things, because that was a quantifiable game with a set structure (rip 2000-2017). You can try and say 1v1 is fair between 2 of the same job- but positioning doesn't count for anything. You're basically counting on the other person to make a mistake and press a button at the wrong time, do it too slow, or forget altogether. There's no skill ceiling that enables you to do something *better* than someone else. It's either 1 or 0 in XIV, you did something or you didn't. There is no capacity for how and out-howing someone else. And thus having someone emote or jump on you when they didn't out-how you, is annoying. They are celebrating that you didn't press a button at a particular point, akin to celebrating you causing a raid to wipe because you missed a tiny bit of dps or something.

Sorry, but Crystaline Conflict makes me disagree with this. In isolated duels, where there are legitimate 1 vs 1s, no back up, skill is definitely a thing. As between say, reapers and plds who can’t break 200k dps, and those that can push 800-1 mil. HUGE difference in skill/output. There are enough mechanics in these jobs to form particular styles and rhythms.

[localareanetwork]

People that get upset over stuff like this makes me wonder what happened to the average player.. Does no one remember CoD teabagging? Friendly banter is now offensive... >_> just grow some skin

[Glenfiddich]

My opinion is.
This is not a problem that players are causing. It is something SE is responsible for.
They provide emotes like slaps!
Of course players use the jumping emote on defeated opponents to shame them. What did SE expect from a content that is so driven by emotions?
Personally, I don't care if someone does it to me. I always think that this player must have a sad life if something like that satisfies him.

[Archeron]

My stance is; Play obnoxiously, get T-bagged.

I don't care how against ToS it is. If you're going to chase me halfway across the map in frontlines for no particular reason, or park yourself at spawn to attack people you earned it. When you choose to ignore objectives just to harass one player the entire match, or to deliberately make yourself a nuissance, regardless of it being CC/RW/FL expect to get my sack in your face when you get downed.