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    I firmly believe the housing system is made with the intention to shackle players who actually care about that system, forcing you to remain subbed and 'tend' to your house or you'll lose it. There's no instanced alternative that comes close to being 'decent' in my opinion this is by design. The housing is scarce by design, after all, if plots were readily available and plenty, you could just unsub and come back to claim a house (imo the healthy way).

    The lottery and changes to wards made it even harder now. You can also blame people who buy plots and resell em, it's harder now but I'm sure it happens. The system is still very much exploitable, just not as easy as before.

    I think anyone who is paying a sub to this game should be entitled to some kind of permanent instanced housing that's not as pitiful as apartments with such low furniture limit. At least spice it up by adding some upgrades or unique traits.

    I doubt they'd listen to us, but I think people should keep asking.

    I'd say the lottery is more forgiving in a sense 'set it and forget it'. I once spent 14 hours straight spamming the placcard on the old system and in the last 30mins 5-6 people showed up out of the blue...I was lucky to have been on controller spamming that placcard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    I firmly believe the housing system is made with the intention to shackle players who actually care about that system, forcing you to remain subbed and 'tend' to your house or you'll lose it.
    If this is true (and frequent suspension of auto-demolition puts that into doubt), then the dumbest thing for players to do is allow themselves to get shackled to the system. That gives Square Enix control over them.

    Do I care about the system? Yes, it's why I spend a lot of time in this subforum discussing the ways it could be improved.

    Am I shackled to it? Not at all. If I need to take a break from the game and lose my houses, then I lose my houses. They are just virtual items in an online game.

    Having things in a game is fun but they're never so important that we should allow ourselves to make stupid decisions over them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If this is true (and frequent suspension of auto-demolition puts that into doubt), then the dumbest thing for players to do is allow themselves to get shackled to the system. That gives Square Enix control over them.

    Do I care about the system? Yes, it's why I spend a lot of time in this subforum discussing the ways it could be improved.

    Am I shackled to it? Not at all. If I need to take a break from the game and lose my houses, then I lose my houses. They are just virtual items in an online game.

    Having things in a game is fun but they're never so important that we should allow ourselves to make stupid decisions over them.
    Like paying for a game that will one day shut down leaving us all empty handed after investing thousands of dollars into it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    Like paying for a game that will one day shut down leaving us all empty handed after investing thousands of dollars into it?
    We all know when getting into an online game that it will come to an end one day. Have you made some good memories during your time playing so far? I know I have. The interactions and memories I've created because of this game are worth every penny, to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    Like paying for a game that will one day shut down leaving us all empty handed after investing thousands of dollars into it?
    There's your problem. You see it as an investment. It's not.

    It's a service. You pay to have access for the stated period of time. If your service provider goes out of business or you are no longer happy with the quality of the service they provide, you either change providers or decide you no longer have need for that type of service. It doesn't matter the hundreds or thousands of dollars paid to the service in the past. That was paid for the past access, not future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    There's your problem. You see it as an investment. It's not.

    It's a service. You pay to have access for the stated period of time. If your service provider goes out of business or you are no longer happy with the quality of the service they provide, you either change providers or decide you no longer have need for that type of service. It doesn't matter the hundreds or thousands of dollars paid to the service in the past. That was paid for the past access, not future.
    Its both, I agree with the poster above, its the experience that makes it worth it. Like for me I enjoyed my time with world of warcraft during the WotLK-Cataclysm Era, and after the game changed I didn't care for the direction. I didn't ask for a refund. I enjoyed my time with it and I moved on.

    But given I've found a creative hobby out of the carrd site using the games housing system. And if I lost access to it, well that makes the site somewhat more difficult to build on since it no longer would exist in-game and the story around it has to be reworked/ retired. It is a creative investment, and whats 15 dollars a month to maintain it, when I can spend 20 dollars on lunch?
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    Last edited by Solowing; 07-27-2024 at 06:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    I firmly believe the housing system is made with the intention to shackle players who actually care about that system, forcing you to remain subbed and 'tend' to your house or you'll lose it. There's no instanced alternative that comes close to being 'decent' in my opinion this is by design. The housing is scarce by design, after all, if plots were readily available and plenty, you could just unsub and come back to claim a house (imo the healthy way).

    The lottery and changes to wards made it even harder now. You can also blame people who buy plots and resell em, it's harder now but I'm sure it happens. The system is still very much exploitable, just not as easy as before.

    I think anyone who is paying a sub to this game should be entitled to some kind of permanent instanced housing that's not as pitiful as apartments with such low furniture limit. At least spice it up by adding some upgrades or unique traits.

    I doubt they'd listen to us, but I think people should keep asking.

    I'd say the lottery is more forgiving in a sense 'set it and forget it'. I once spent 14 hours straight spamming the placcard on the old system and in the last 30mins 5-6 people showed up out of the blue...I was lucky to have been on controller spamming that placcard.
    I firmly confirmed you joined this game late and do not know the history housing devleopment
    Everything you see in game right now, it is this same forum that is responsible
    From auto demo to lottery, everything is origin from this forum (or housing form from other languages)
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