The difficulty of normal content is great as is. Do not revert them.

[Zakuyia]

If roulette content is made harder there's a population that will leave roulettes, yeah.

there's also a population that will join roulettes as it actually becomes gameplay, and a large amount of people that will queue regardless because they want the rewards. There's no impending risk of duty finder drying out.

I dont fully agree with that. Maybe the reason were failing is cause the content not hard enough. Ppl grow from failure. If you lack failing then you lack growth. To many ppl go under geared into content, don't mitigate, don't heal properly. If content was slightly harder then ppl would have to adapt to getting stronger. Content dont need to be unreal, ex, savage, ultimate levels of hard but content needs to be hard to 1. Match the levels growth, 2. Teach u that all buttons matter (looking at you tanks who refuse to use arms length cause u don't like reading what skills do or keep using common armor refuse to get stronger) 3. Teaches u fundementals on preparing for a fight and understand when raid wide and tank busters are approaching. Hard content forges you in fire, weak content dulls the blade. Look at how ppl leave when they see Nier raid but cry when they don,'t get CT

[Akonyl]

That is an incredibly selfish point of view.

Most everyone in these discussions/arguments are arguing for what's good for them. The difference is that this person is acknowledging that, while other people like to couch their viewpoint as "what's for the greater good of the game". It's not the people who like the harder mechanics going "well I think the difficulty needs to be nerfed a bit".

I'd sooner trust someone who's blunt about their motives, honestly.

[NaoEthelia]

Let me explain what will happen: players will stop doing roulettes and new players will sit in long queues trying to get through the said content. Getting a pop for a specific alliance raid could already be an issue during pre-DT lull, with what you suggest it's only going to get worse.

This is a non-issue. If some players don't do roulettes, honestly that changes absolutely nothing for 100% of the playing playerbase. Players who still want to do content still get matched up with players who still want to do content, and players who don't are self-filtering themselves out of the queue, which actually improves the roulette player quality.

[MediArgentum]

Fully agreed with the OP. I like the new difficulty level of Dawntrail's Expert Dungeons and raids.
Previous expansions' normal content was far too easy and far too behind difficult content.
Dawntrail's normal content is noticeably more difficult, still behind difficult content (as it should be) but not quite as much anymore. Which is good. This is a better balance.

We are level 100. It's time to learn to play the game or you could also stick with roulettes below the Expert Dungeons. They are called Expert Dungeons after all. You still have the other roulettes, right?

[Mihka]

Let me explain what will happen: players will stop doing roulettes and new players will sit in long queues trying to get through the said content. Getting a pop for a specific alliance raid could already be an issue during pre-DT lull, with what you suggest it's only going to get worse.

I already don't do roulettes 95% of the time because they're braindead boring. If the average content in the game required me to rub two braincells together, I might actually start doing them again.

[LilyPendragon]

I already don't do roulettes 95% of the time because they're braindead boring. If the average content in the game required me to rub two braincells together, I might actually start doing them again.

And you, imo, are the type of player SE should be targeting. Not Limsa afk'ers who are more interested in going to nightclubs.

[TDawnstar]

In what way is that a selfish viewpoint?

"I want what's good for me" (that's a quote btw) is THE text book of a selfish point of view, by definition.

You want the game to be pushed in a direction that caters ONLY to people who DO NOT ENJOY the game. The person you're replying to, wants the game's level 100 content to actually be designed for players who enjoy the game, instead of people who don't want to play it at all.

Well, if you are asking ME what I'll want, I'll tell you: I believe that an MMORPG should be open to anybody and accomodate a wide range of skill levels, activities and tastes. BUT if you, as a developer, declare that MSQ is mandatory, then it shouldn't present any major roadblocks for a wide part of the playerbase. Then you can have optional hard raid content for players who would like to partake in that.

The selfish opinion is the one asking to take away the most basic level of interaction with the game's content in favor of letting people who don't want to play XIV in the first place, get to literally afk through the game's level 100 content while everyone else is forced to play content that has no level of interaction whatsoever and is genuinely significantly easier than the level 40 dungeons.

You clearly haven't been recently to a level 40 dungeon Comparing the level 100 content to a level 40 dungeon is incredibly bad faith. Alas, that kind of attitude is very frequent these days...

[TDawnstar]

Most everyone in these discussions/arguments are arguing for what's good for them.

Yes, and within reason, it's a good thing. The problem is, we are past that limit here. I'd rather not see a third MMORPG destroyed by raiders.

[TDawnstar]

I already don't do roulettes 95% of the time because they're braindead boring. If the average content in the game required me to rub two braincells together, I might actually start doing them again.

Then don't do them? Roulettes are mainly for getting XP for alt jobs. If you don't want any, then don't do them. And yes, MSQ roulette for the 1000th time is boring, but when the alternative is spamming the same dungeons specifically or grinding FATEs, it suddenly looks a lot less boring

[Mihka]

Then don't do them? Roulettes are mainly for getting XP for alt jobs. If you don't want any, then don't do them. And yes, MSQ roulette for the 1000th time is boring, but when the alternative is spamming the same dungeons specifically or grinding FATEs, it suddenly looks a lot less boring

My whole point is that your statement is predicated on a single point of view. You're saying if they make content harder, people will stop running roulettes, when the fact is that people already stopped running roulettes because of the exact opposite problem as well. You lose some players if you make it easier, and you regain them while losing others by making it harder. You only care about half of this equation.

And to be quite honest, it really cannot be said enough. This is the fifth expansion. Anyone playing at this point has no excuse for not having even the most basic level of mechanical competence. Except for people who buy MSQ skips, and that's their fault for paying to lose.