Give back pre-DT models back NOW

[Cheapshot]

I’m the person who made the character shown in this comparison image, so I’d like to add my thoughts.

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What I personally take issue with is the feminized look of the new face. The nose looks smaller, the lips look doll-like, the eyelashes look bigger, and so on. This character’s appearance is now more in line with generic anime girl beauty standards (or, as one might say, “better”), but this is the opposite of what I intended for this character’s design. Beyond my own character, I think the changes to face 4 have reduced the variety of potential female miqo’te faces in an unfortunate way, since face 4 now looks more like the other three faces.

THIS! 1000 times this. It is not unreasonable to feel this way either.

[TheMightyMollusk]

That would be a great reason if they actually did anything with it, but instead we got the exact same canned animations and expressions as always. Nothing has changed.

7.0 was most likely animated with the old models, since making an expansion takes a long time and the new models weren't done yet. Going back and redoing every cut scene would've caused delays, and good luck getting the shareholders on board with that. We'll need to wait for 7.1 to see what they actually do with the new models.

[cutestfox]

7.0 was most likely animated with the old models, since making an expansion takes a long time and the new models weren't done yet. Going back and redoing every cut scene would've caused delays, and good luck getting the shareholders on board with that. We'll need to wait for 7.1 to see what they actually do with the new models.

There is no evidence to suggest that 7.0 was animated with the old models, there is no evidence that they had to redo an entire cutscene to slap an updated expression on it- bringing shareholders into the argument to make it sound more reasonable is just moving into fanfiction tier. This entire reasoning is nothing but baseless speculation for an excuse

It's patch 7.0, these improved expressions promised in 7.0 are not here. That's all there is to it

[Aurumis]

Who is "we"? Cause I do welcome the new models.

If you don't know how 3D models and textures work in FFXIV, then you should probably look it up. Stop asking for old models, t's just a massive work load on the dev team.

Maybe stop asking people who don't like them to shut up and go away. We are not pleased with the changes. Many changes are worse. Many are better but no, they all are not better. So shut up, touch grass, and let people tell the devs what they did wrong. If your character looks great, good, I'm glad you got lucky, many of us didn't. Many faces or eyes in the game are worse than before. And this should be adknowledge instead of saying you know better than others.

[LianaThorne]

Maybe stop asking people who don't like them to shut up and go away. We are not pleased with the changes. Many changes are worse. Many are better but no, they all are not better. So shut up, touch grass, and let people tell the devs what they did wrong. If your character looks great, good, I'm glad you got lucky, many of us didn't. Many faces or eyes in the game are worse than before. And this should be adknowledge instead of saying you know better than others.

But yall are still gonna go play with your characters right?

[Aurumis]

I'll be honest here: as someone who has been through this in World of Warcraft (I was ridiculously attached to my Draenei).... this level of attachment to a temporary video game character is unhealthy.

The models most certainly did not change "beyond recognition". Yes, there are subtle changes (to my Keeper as well) but they are not night/day differences.

It's not unhealthy, if you don't understand about it better not comment on attachment or go talk with a psychologist to understand why it's not bad.

And yes, they have changed beyond recognition, from having opened eyes and clear iris with the little shine to have the eyelids closed over the eye, obscuring the iris color and devoided of shine, these eyes are now expressionless and makes the character look angry/ dead, and etc. Some eyebrows are now thinner than before for NO reason. Lips gloss are now in all the models no matter if you tick a lipstick color or not. Etc. It's not an improvement, in many faces they are ruined.

[Aurumis]

But yall are still gonna go play with your characters right?

Because I don't have any other option? I will mod them to how they were if the actual devs don't listen. You really think I was happy playing with my character changed? Because it made me want to quit. His expressions in the cutscenes are not the same, this is not the character I have been playing for years. This is not him, and no matter how many fantasias they throw at me, I can't fix his eyes. It's saddens me, it makes me depressed and not want to play. I want my character back, if this continues and they don't listen, I won't play anymore after this expansion. It's just NOT FAIR.

[LianaThorne]

Because I don't have any other option? I will mod them to how they were if the actual devs don't listen. You really think I was happy playing with my character changed? Because it made me want to quit. His expressions in the cutscenes are not the same, this is not the character I have been playing for years. This is not him, and no matter how many fantasias they throw at me, I can't fix his eyes. It's saddens me, it makes me depressed and not want to play. I want my character back, if this continues and they don't listen, I won't play anymore after this expansion. It's just NOT FAIR.

I mean, you're still choosing to play the game ultimately.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying to quit. I'm just saying that if it genuinely bothered anyone in here, I don't understand the mindset of still continuing to play the game with the character you're trying to protest over. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me and shows that you're still willing to compromise and be okay with things. It's like if a healer in the healer strike still played healer despite posting tons of comments hating on healer.

So is this something that is genuinely going to upset people for a while or will we be back to normal in a week or two?

P.S. If you are feeling depressed over something, it's probably better to not force yourself to do that thing and take some time for self-care. Not being depressed and feeling happy and satisfied with life is more important than a video game character.

[Cheapshot]

But yall are still gonna go play with your characters right?

I haven’t. I played about 2 or 3 hours in early access before I gave up and admitted I just wasn’t feelin it. I gave it a real honest try, even tried gaslighting myself that I could get used to it. No success. My attachment to my character is gone and that was pretty integral to my enjoyment of the game. I enjoyed the story and the glams and the adventure because I felt immersed in it all through my attachment to my character. My friends are trying to get me interested again, even buying me game time. But this is the kind of game that many people will enjoy for different reasons and my foundational reason is gone now. Best I can do is try to make reasonable outreaches here and do my best to offer feedback in hopes that they will tweak my features.

But you gotta be subbed and active in game at least every other week to even post here and leave that feedback so…

[LianaThorne]

I haven’t. I played about 2 or 3 hours in early access before I gave up and admitted I just wasn’t feelin it. I gave it a real honest try, even tried gaslighting myself that I could get used to it. No success. My attachment to my character is gone and that was pretty integral to my enjoyment of the game. I enjoyed the story and the glams and the adventure because I felt immersed in it all through my attachment to my character. My friends are trying to get me interested again, even buying me game time. But this is the kind of game that many people will enjoy for different reasons and my foundational reason is gone now.

And this is the first person I will take seriously.