Dawntrail character graphics update - opinions, requests and discussion megathread

[Sarantserel]

I think one of the things that bothers me the most is she now always looks like she's smiling because her mouth is different, but at the same time she's overall less expressive. Her mouth barely moves or opens during animations making it look like her face is just really stiff from botox. I don't know why the cutscene is even darker in DT than it is in EW either. Her eyes seem to be the same if not similar shape but her eyebrows, nose and mouth are definitely different which loses her for me. I liked it better when she wasn't smiley all the time and just had a neutral resting face. I miss her old look. :/
Edit: I'd make a gif of the comparison and all the other stuff, but I don't know how to make gifs and I'm a little too tired right now to go in depth with the overall shape changes as others have. Something I will have to do when I get a chance though.

EW:


DT:


EW: Left
DT: Right
Expression is "scared"

Your pictures remind me, but the lighting in Ultima Thule has gotten much worse after the update IMO. It feels so dark now and the fee light remaining seems way more harsh.

[Moonfallen]

Your pictures remind me, but the lighting in Ultima Thule has gotten much worse after the update IMO. It feels so dark now and the fee light remaining seems way more harsh.

Yeah A LOT of the lighting is definitely darker now. I hope when they fix the lighting for housing it also will fix lighting elsewhere, but who knows. I just don't think they should have released any of the graphics update until they were done with it. I don't have a lot of trust or hope right now that they are going to keep working on it like they said they are.

[Sarantserel]

Yeah A LOT of the lighting is definitely darker now. I hope when they fix the lighting for housing it also will fix lighting elsewhere, but who knows. I just don't think they should have released any of the graphics update until they were done with it. I don't have a lot of trust or hope right now that they are going to keep working on it like they said they are.

Same, I obviously don't know what was happening behind the devs' doors, but a lot of the aspects of this update feels unpolished and rushed. For example, the decolored spots on fem au ra's hand seems like a pretty big oversight to send in the live game. The new lighting sometimes produce choppy shadows that I don't recall seeing prior to DT. Them using the Hyur eye textures for Roegadyn, Viera and Au Ra rather than remaking their previous unique eye textures. Some ancients, like Emet have lost their striking glowing eyes. Lighting in some areas like housing, inns and UT have been drastically changed. Plus, I've talked with friends and for a lot of races, they feel like their character's facial emotes are less noticeable/more muted than before. I was streaming to friends yesterday and they couldn't find the difference between Simper and Beam, which I recall was noticeable prior.

[Neviklink]

Same, I obviously don't know what was happening behind the devs' doors, but a lot of the aspects of this update feels unpolished and rushed. For example, the decolored spots on fem au ra's hand seems like a pretty big oversight to send in the live game. The new lighting sometimes produce choppy shadows that I don't recall seeing prior to DT. Them using the Hyur eye textures for Roegadyn, Viera and Au Ra rather than remaking their previous unique eye textures. Some ancients, like Emet have lost their striking glowing eyes. Lighting in some areas like housing, inns and UT have been drastically changed. Plus, I've talked with friends and for a lot of races, they feel like their character's facial emotes are less noticeable/more muted than before. I was streaming to friends yesterday and they couldn't find the difference between Simper and Beam, which I recall was noticeable prior.

I think the hand thing might be a result of them having added more polygons to hands and polishing the textures, the hand thing probably only happens on every glove using the old hand model. can't verify it as i am not femra. As for rushing, they probably did as much as they could there's a lot of locations in the game, I find some places brighter than they were originally. I imagine they will hopefully tweak things in upcoming patches.

[Rueby]

Oh I wanted to add that the lighting in housing is busted. The lowest setting '0' is still too bright compared to the previous which honestly ruins the dark theme I was looking for in my FC house. Thanks Yoshi...very cool.

[grassjelly]

Adding my input to the fem midlander issue, esp with face 1.

Old:



New, several angles, slightly different lighting but closest as I could get:










1) Eye shape appears different due to the change in eyeliner. Top side of eye especially, but also in general
2) Nose appears wider
3) Generally looks more derpy imo

Also since others have mentioned the WoW aesthetic update: its funny, because human female (aka the 'midlander fem hyur' equivalent in WoW) faces post-update look like total rubbish too imo. Blood elf, orc, and most others look fine though.

[Moonfallen]

Oh I wanted to add that the lighting in housing is busted. The lowest setting '0' is still too bright compared to the previous which honestly ruins the dark theme I was looking for in my FC house. Thanks Yoshi...very cool.

They actually addressed this in an announcement and are working on fixing/changing it.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...e4e7501facc4d6

[Rueby]

They actually addressed this in an announcement and are working on fixing/changing it.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...e4e7501facc4d6

Oh wow...That's amazing. I thought this would be yet another thing swept under the rug...

I hope they also fix the intense contrast in certain areas. I haven't been in many areas yet but I'm noticing alot of 'spotlight' trends in lighting especially in areas like Labyrinth of the Ancients. The stairs/corridors are way too dark compared to the arena itself. I can't describe it as anything other than a spotlight I think.

There's also this strange twitching of eyebrows in gpose when applying any facial animation which looks honestly jarring. Sad, worried, etc has this twitchy look. I wish I knew how to make a gif, I'd upload it. I really wish this is a bug that they'd fix...

Anyone can check for me? A friend of mine tried on male viera and it was fine. I'm on Female Miqo Face 4...worried, sad, scoff, ponder, ouch, scared, taunt

[ShushShushi]

I thought DLSS and/or FSR 2 being forced on in the benchmark was only just for the benchmark, but it appears there's no way to run the game natively anymore. There's no way to turn off either DLSS or FSR. I am disheartened by this since I strongly dislike DLSS and FSR. I think it makes games with them look worse and it adds ghosting artifacts to stuff like weapons, distant objects and trees. I really wish they could patch the game so we could run the game natively.

[Moonfallen]

I think I got too close to the window in the Limsa inn...