Feedback: Dawntrail MSQ thoughts

[HyoMinPark]

So I'm not really interested in arguing this further, because you don't seem to really understand the subject matter enough to have that discussion. And I don't really appreciate someone swearing at me, either.

And some of us don’t appreciate you basically calling us dumb in the most roundabout way possible simply because we disagree with you about a character. Wuk Lamat is a Blackhole Sue. That is simply a fact if you look at the definition of what a Blackhole Sue is and apply it to her. And, last I checked, any variation of a Mary Sue =/= a good character.

The Black Hole Sue: Her gravity is so great, she draws all the attention and causes other characters (and, often, reality itself) to bend and contort in order to accommodate her. Characters don't act naturally around her. They instead serve as plot enablers for her, with dialogue that only acts as set-ups for her response. She dominates every scene she is in, with most scenes without her serving only to give the characters a chance to "talk freely" about her. Most people don't oppose her and anybody who does will either realize their fault in doing so or just prove easy to overcome.

- Wuk draws all attention to herself in just about every scene she’s in. There’s even several where she is outright blocking the WoL’s character model. Either with her body or her weapon.

- None of the characters act like themselves when she’s involved. The Scions and the WoL have all been lobotomized and re-programmed to explicitly only agree with her. We are never allowed to contest her through dialogue options. We can’t even pick the “…” stay silent option. We are all her Yesmen.
(I don’t count the single dialogue option we had with Gulool Ja Ja of “she’s not ready” because it’s not even to her. And, ultimately, he just says the Rite is a way to make her ready because she’s an awesome-sauce person who can do anything!! Because the writer said so. Not because she showed any growth or development on her own.)

- The only person who really opposes her is Zarool Ja, who was shoehorned into the villain role with very little build up after Bakool Ja Ja did a character turn-around so fast I actually got whiplash from it. Nothing wrong with his motives, but gods, there was NO build up for it. At all. It came off almost as a retcon of his character.



The Wuk Lamat defenders are as wild as the Zenos defenders that called for him to get a redemption arc post-Endwalker.