FFXIV Dawntrail reviews are out on Metacritic

[Amh_Wilzuun]

Citizen, the user score is now down to 6.6 which I'd say is an accurate score for a story of this caliber.


For duty and valor.

You have to grade not just the story to be fair. You have to also grade the battle content and new features.

Also on behalf of everyone on primal, the weeb police is not funny

[GoatOfWar]

Steam reviews are misleading because half the upvotes are people upvoting just to spite the people who didn't like the game.
People upvoting an expansion to tell the people downvoting it why they're wrong aren't really coming from a place of good faith.
It's rating is more around 50%

[Voidmage]

You have to grade not just the story to be fair. You have to also grade the battle content and new features.

Also on behalf of everyone on primal, the weeb police is not funny

That's what people do though. Read more threads and many say that the rest of the game is fine.
For me DT is a 6 or 7/10 for example.
The thing is though that in ff14 the MSQ gets a different weighting compared to other content from players. It's the one thing this game prides itself on.
That's why you see so much negativ feedback.
Most also give feedback why they didn't like the story and many cite Wuk Lamat as the reason, most of them the overshadowing of her presense.

The story is no trainwreck in my opinion. It has a solid foundation but really bad execution. So I would rate the MSQ itself only a 4, the reason being that I really had to force myself to finish it.
A story that does that is no more then mediocre and a 5 for example is here a good rating. I give it a 4 because I weight it more heavely though.

It's all just an opinion thing in the end but nontheless many players are not satisfied.

[BakoolJaJa]

You have to grade not just the story to be fair. You have to also grade the battle content and new features.

You don't have to do anything. Customers are just that - customers. They pay for a product, receive a product of variable quality and have some sort of an opinion on it. They are not critics, not journalists, not judges, nor referees. They have no obligation to be objective or unbiased. They have different tastes and values, belong to different wealth classes, etc.

In practice - one customer may play ffxiv primarily for raiding, mostly skip the story anyways, and also be pretty well off financially, to a point where the expansion price is peanuts to them. They don't have to grade the story. To them Dawntrail might as well be 10/10. Another customer may play ffxiv purely for the story, unsub once they get through the MSQ and/or patches, and also might have saved for a year just to get this expansion. Also they could be playing on Xbox and having issues with performance. They don't have to grade the battle content or "new features." To them Dawntrail might as well be 0/10.

Reviews will never be fair, objective or unbiased. Never. Not the 10/10 reviews. Not the 0/10 reviews. And not even the 7/10 reviews. We are not machines. We are emotional and biased beings.

[Isala]

You have to grade not just the story to be fair. You have to also grade the battle content and new features.

Also on behalf of everyone on primal, the weeb police is not funny

Ah yes. The battle content. The completely lackluster jobs that haven't been fun since Stormblood, the snoozefest dungeons that still don't require healing, and, if you're antisocial, the completely trash trust system.

And, oh yes. The new "features". Graphical updates that broke most of our characters' defining traits, and a blacklist style that still hasn't caught up with the present millennium.

I'm still seeing zeros all around on this pathetic expansion.

[Amh_Wilzuun]

You don't have to do anything. Customers are just that - customers. They pay for a product, receive a product of variable quality and have some sort of an opinion on it. They are not critics, not journalists, not judges, nor referees. They have no obligation to be objective or unbiased. They have different tastes and values, belong to different wealth classes, etc.

In practice - one customer may play ffxiv primarily for raiding, mostly skip the story anyways, and also be pretty well off financially, to a point where the expansion price is peanuts to them. They don't have to grade the story. To them Dawntrail might as well be 10/10. Another customer may play ffxiv purely for the story, unsub once they get through the MSQ and/or patches, and also might have saved for a year just to get this expansion. Also they could be playing on Xbox and having issues with performance. They don't have to grade the battle content or "new features." To them Dawntrail might as well be 0/10.

Reviews will never be fair, objective or unbiased. Never. Not the 10/10 reviews. Not the 0/10 reviews. And not even the 7/10 reviews. We are not machines. We are emotional and biased beings.

Okay? Consumer reviews should still be done in good faith. No one is saying you need to do a roger ebert-level dissertation in a user review, what I am asking for is pretty basic. You can't even play through the MSQ without interacting with the battle content. If you made a Yelp review on a restaurant and the pasta was a 5/10 so you decided to give the entire restaurant a 5/10 even though the salad and the burger were 8/10 then that is being unfair

[Amh_Wilzuun]

Ah yes. The battle content. The completely lackluster jobs that haven't been fun since Stormblood, the snoozefest dungeons that still don't require healing, and, if you're antisocial, the completely trash trust system.

And, oh yes. The new "features". Graphical updates that broke most of our characters' defining traits, and a blacklist style that still hasn't caught up with the present millennium.

I'm still seeing zeros all around on this pathetic expansion.

This post is comedic. All it needs is a deep-fried giant frowning emoji to make it perfect. Underneath the theatrics there are legitimate criticisms. Like I agree that healer design needs work, but to piggy back off of that to dismiss the entire dungeon and encounter design which the majority of the playerbase has praised?

And if we're talking jobs, I think Viper and Picto bode well for future jobs.

the graphic update came with some issues, but saying it broke most character's looks is a complete exaggeration and they have been pretty good about responding to feedback on it. Most people liked the upgrade their character's got. It was never going to be seamless.

If you hate the game this much why are you even here? Why did you sink 40 bucks into it?

[Isala]

This post is comedic. All it needs is a deep-fried giant frowning emoji to make it perfect. Underneath the theatrics there are legitimate criticisms. Like I agree that healer design needs work, but to piggy back off of that to dismiss the entire dungeon and encounter design which the majority of the playerbase has praised?

And if we're talking jobs, I think Viper and Picto bode well for future jobs.

the graphic update came with some issues, but saying it broke most character's looks is a complete exaggeration and they have been pretty good about responding to feedback on it. Most people liked the upgrade their character's got. It was never going to be seamless.

If you hate the game this much why are you even here? Why did you sink 40 bucks into it?

Nobody is praising the same boring dungeon designs we've had for years. I was very specific to point out the DUNGEONS.

Your precious Viper is already on the chopping block, because a slight amount of skill required was detected by the dev team.

And go ask Lalas and Roes about their smudges. Also, for some reason, mine is turbo jacked, which if I wasn't okay with, would have destroyed my character for me.

And I'm here for the same reason that everyone else here is. Because we enjoyed the game, and don't see the reason to quit it because this expansion just happens to be a meth dumpster fire.

[Conando]

Who even are any of those outlets except for Jeuxvideo, which incidentally gave it a 85 which is still a good score.

[WeebPolice]

Also on behalf of everyone on primal, the weeb police is not funny

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