This xpac msq is....?!!! [Ending spoiler]

[LucienFaust]

Hmm how cool would have been if we actually became a competent kingmaker. We should have had moments when we'd have to seriously keep Wuk Lamat in check and guide her.

[IvoryHawk]

Hmm how cool would have been if we actually became a competent kingmaker. We should have had moments when we'd have to seriously keep Wuk Lamat in check and guide her.

*Nods* *Punches fist*

[Lineaelina]

I don't really mind not being the main character but I do mind being made into a character who doesn't matter at all. We didn't have anything to do, we could have been replaced by a house plant and it wouldn't have made a difference. We have been an observer before but we have never been this indifferent.

I liked Wuk Lamat in the beginning but because she was always there and always talking and not giving us any room to breathe, she grew stale very soon. In general her character was more of a Mary Sue than an actual believable character. Towards the end I would have given anything to spend more time with anyone else but her, but then she even ruined the last trial for me. I feel like when a new character is introduced they can't give them 98% of time because we don't have any ties to them before and what ties could have been made were ruined for me by their constant presence.

And then the characters I do care about were pushed aside and made meaningless. I understand we probably want to move on from the Scions eventually but it needs to be done better than this. They too were reduced into blank wall flowers. I want to like the characters I spend my adventures with and I can't stand it if the Wuk Lamat show continues in patches. At least atm it seems like we are off to adventure with Erenville but I fear she will insert herself like she did in that trial.

[arstoka]

find the way sphene straight up give that lizzard man an alpha procol over her army and spare no leeway for her to overwrite it without explain anything is strange, that end up his command to amry bot slaughter all of her people, then paint herself up as a real boss that behind everything, she want war, she want more soul so her people can keep living make no sense in that decision

if she really that powerful and love her people so much, she can easy overwrite any order from lizzard man and even take control of his body consider how much he modified his with all of these machine part, or atleast explain how an outsider like him can get such power in technology advance civilization

nothing being explain, everything just happen like some goddamn disney movie

This point always bothered me about the narrative because, as far as I read, I have NO IDEA how he came into power. Even with time dilation in effect it still doesn't make sense. How does he help Sphene? What purpose does he actually have that allows him to benefit her in any capacity? Why the hell would she give control over her army to him? Sure, it was her idea to slaughter the people of the Source for their aether but Sphene and Zoraal Ja's motivations are not aligned. It's head scratching at best and downright infuriating at worst.

Not only that but the scene where Otis protects her because she's been damaged by lightning? She could have just...swapped robot bodies like she's done before. Not only that but the more you think about it, if she gave complete military control over all bodies then how was she even able to maintain control of the soldier unit in the first place?

This story has so many plot holes it makes the Marianas Trench look like a kiddie pool.

[Kaecilius]

This point always bothered me about the narrative because, as far as I read, I have NO IDEA how he came into power. Even with time dilation in effect it still doesn't make sense. How does he help Sphene? What purpose does he actually have that allows him to benefit her in any capacity? Why the hell would she give control over her army to him? Sure, it was her idea to slaughter the people of the Source for their aether but Sphene and Zoraal Ja's motivations are not aligned. It's head scratching at best and downright infuriating at worst.

I mean, he holds the key/artifact that allows for dimensional merging. Without that, the Alexandrians are 100% stuck in their shard, slowly running out of energy and growing more and more desperate. I can see Zoraal Ja using the key and their desperation as leverage to force himself into more power than Sphene be willing to give him under different circumstances.

...With that said, it does feel like a ton of this is just not properly addressed ingame and instead handwaved away, like most plot points in the expansion.

[ShariusTC]

I mean, he holds the key/artifact that allows for dimensional merging. Without that, the Alexandrians are 100% stuck in their shard, slowly running out of energy and growing more and more desperate. I can see Zoraal Ja using the key and their desperation as leverage to force himself into more power than Sphene be willing to give him under different circumstances.

...With that said, it does feel like a ton of this is just not properly addressed ingame and instead handwaved away, like most plot points in the expansion.

whatever he hold, the moment he modified his body and use her computer device, she already has full control over his body if story make little sense, it's like common knowledge in any scifi story at this point

sphene is not a little girl like she look, she is a war machine that feed on living souls for hundred of years now

[FlowerMilk]

I don't mind not being the protagonist. What I do mind is that the Scions have had their personalities removed. If they weren't around, I wouldn't even have noticed. Not to mention they seem to awfully conveniently only turn up for Trusts and then disappear again half the time.

That and I'm really, really tired of my WoL being forced to be a naive, trusting idiot. The only way Sphene could have been more obvious would be if she had a giant sign say "I'm the main villain, ask me how" and yet the only person having a reasonable reaction to her was Alisae, of all people.

The Scions losing their personalities and Y'shtola's voice sounding glitchy at times has me becoming a conspiracy theorist that the Scions were swapped out with robots.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE! I'm onto you Yoshi P....

[Kaecilius]

whatever he hold, the moment he modified his body and use her computer device, she already has full control over his body if story make little sense, it's like common knowledge in any scifi story at this point

He seemed to have forced his way into admin permissions that actually superseded her authority when it came to the army, since she couldn't stop the attack on Solution Nine. I don't think it makes much sense (she could have given him limited permissions, making him believe he was in control), but it's what the narrative says.

[Boblawblah]

The Scions losing their personalities and Y'shtola's voice sounding glitchy at times has me becoming a conspiracy theorist that the Scions were swapped out with robots.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE! I'm onto you Yoshi P....

Actually, the Scions voice acting in general was pretty average at best eh? I was a bit shocked at how uninterested they sounded most of the time.

[Lavender_Listhea]

Wonder if I'm the only one who wished to be more in the background.
I had plenty of instances where the dialog options were so awful and bland I just wanted a "..."