Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[FlowerMilk]

Ishikawa didn't have much say in this beyond potentially a handful of scenes and it really shows when you compare it to Shadowbringers and Endwalker. And the scenes that did well, either it was a fluke or a fleeting stroke of genius. Might just end up going through new game + for those expansions then cancelling the sub. At least until I know there will be a positive future for the game.

The fact that it's really obvious for everyone what scenes she had a hand is very telling about the rest of the story. It's like taking a breath of fresh air whenever they come up and it feels like I'm actually playing one of my favorite games, FFXIV, again. She is very much missed, I hope they figure out how to bring back the same magic she brings to rest of the story. ;_;

Also I just realized Wuk Lamat is just this meme and sums up why I dislike her:



People will be like "I am literally going to kill you and everyone you care about" and she's like "let's get to know each other and have a debate about that" ughhh

[Alahian]

Just another voice adding the displeasure to the current MSQ. I am not a fan of WL. She feels like a lost, naive child that needs way too much hand holding or guidance, even though she was semi-raised by a warrior father figure, and a handmaiden that seemed relatively intelligent herself. I am not a fan of how it feels to have "Speak to WL" multiple times *in a single quest* when that could have literally been one cutscene that is linked together.

Like many others, by the time I got to a certain point in the MSQ (around the 94 quests), I was just done with listening to her. Anytime I had another CS that was majorly involved about her (which is most of them), I literally got to a point that I just skipped it. I understand the WoL isnt here to be the main story driver this time, but it feels like a bit of a slap to the face that we are effectively disregarded for anything, shoved back behind the orange cat, and given very few response options where its either agreeing with said Cheeto-cat or remaining silent then having someone else *speak for us*.

Right now, due to my sense of completionism, I will finish this MSQ/Expac, just to have it done, but I do not think I will ever feel the same trust I had before in future story lines.

"Pray Return to Weak Lemon" should be the title of every quest past the first. It fits better.

[EvanescentRayne]

Weak Lemon: "I don't want to judge you or your culture."

Even though you all collect, use, reuse, and then deny the souls of the deceased their natural cycle of life, death, and rebirth while the wealthiest and government workers get to horde those souls like money. Idk about the rest of you but my WOL was ready to tear down Solution 9 considering everything that society stood for directly violated everything we learned in Endwalker.

"So, let's be friends!"

[lolnotacat]

Weak Lemon: "I don't want to judge you or your culture."

Even though you all collect, use, reuse, and then deny the souls of the deceased their natural cycle of life, death, and rebirth while the wealthiest and government workers get to horde those souls like money. Idk about the rest of you but my WOL was ready to tear down Solution 9 considering everything that society stood for directly violated everything we learned in Endwalker.

"So, let's be friends!"

TBH I wanted the WoL to remember shit she actually did before. Paralyzed kid due to aether imbalance? *Linkpearl* "Hey Alisae, rustle up a Porxie!"

Race of immortals that are memories separated from souls and despite what a certain bun has to say, are definitely people? *Linkpearl* "Hey Jammingway, get me in touch with some Omicrons who know about implanting memories into mechanical bodies. The people here managed it, but they can help improve the situation for sure!"

Now don't get me wrong. There were more than a few times I wanted to go on a rampage (and never got to because FeeEEEeeeeLings) but a lot of the problems we faced could've had a peaceful solution if at some point we also didn't undergo a memory wipe.

[PaleYonder]

The fact that it's really obvious for everyone what scenes she had a hand is very telling about the rest of the story. It's like taking a breath of fresh air whenever they come up and it feels like I'm actually playing one of my favorite games, FFXIV, again. She is very much missed, I hope they figure out how to bring back the same magic she brings to rest of the story. ;_;

Also I just realized Wuk Lamat is just this meme and sums up why I dislike her:



People will be like "I am literally going to kill you and everyone you care about" and she's like "let's get to know each other and have a debate about that" ughhh

Agreed on all counts; Ishikawa wrote actual art on occasion, and I miss that.

I love that meme, and it's funny, in RPGs with a lot of options, I often play as close to that meme as can be, it's fun to me, let's talk out everything, let me recruit everyone. I set up my WOL as that kind of character, too, in principle. He accepted Zenos's friendship proposal at the end of Stormblood, he expects to give Amon the 50th chance when they meet again, he's that kind. And yet, this expansion was too much, too unearned, too naive espcially with Sphene - and the thing was that we didn't even have the say in it, we didn't get to be the centrist liberal debating the enemies, we didn't build a questionable personal connection with the world-destroying AI, Wuk Lamat did, and with that I was unengaged anyway.