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  1. 07-06-2024 07:09 AM

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    Lersayil's Avatar
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    Lhei Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    If you feel shutting off the terminals was murder and akin to what the Ascians did, do you also think the Sundering was wrong?

    Curious if people are consistent on this across the board.
    Yup, absolutely. In the end I was less sour about it, because it wasn't our group doing it, we had the wibbly wobbly, timey wimey thing going on, and the writing was overall better. Also the story didn't end on that note unlike DT. But yeah. Mostly the same deal.
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    If you feel shutting off the terminals was murder and akin to what the Ascians did, do you also think the Sundering was wrong?

    Curious if people are consistent on this across the board.
    Shutting off the terminals wasn't remotely bad and the sundering was great.

    If that's genocide, then I'm okay with being a mass murderer.
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    Sox Nadate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teah_Kaye View Post
    If you feel shutting off the terminals was murder and akin to what the Ascians did, do you also think the Sundering was wrong?

    Curious if people are consistent on this across the board.
    I feel like things are a little bit different between the two situations... My idea with the Endless is that we could have just killed Sphene and let the Endless use up their last supply of souls (No idea if it actually works like that but it wasn't even considered...). With the ancients, a huge amount of them were going to be involved in actively sacrificing new life to regain what they lost, and very little could have been done to dissuade them. It wasn't just one person doing wrong, it was a huge number of them, and by nature they fundamentally couldn't accept their new reality. Overall I think it's complicated, but I think the Sundering was morally gray but justified, but killing the Endless as I perceived the situation was wrong.

    ...Now, we if we needed to kill the Endless in order to get to Sphene or weaken Sphene to defeat her, or if it was confirmed 100% without a doubt that they absolutely didn't have souls and were empty husks emulating the memories of people, or they were all going to be involved in "harvesting" more souls, then I think it would have probably been a little more justified as a necessary evil. But the question of how involved the actual soul is in their existence is still very dubious, and we very clearly did not need to kill any of them to stop Sphene at all. (Cahciua's original reason for the plan was to take away Sphene's entire reason for gathering new souls. We didn't even mention what we did to her and beat her up anyway.)
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