Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[KenshiKawa]

[QUOTE=Loggos;6509745]I'm glad you brought these points up because I see it in a similar way.

I don't actually agree with the thread's premise that Wuk ruined DT.

Imo she isn't a bad character in principle. The idea of an unprepared royal heir trying to shoulder a burden far too big her for in order to help her people, and then maturing into this role over the course of a satisfying journey is a compelling premise in my eyes.
(And I think she has a very cool and well-conceived visual character design, too.)

If written well this could have been a really fun story.


I think Disney did a movie that sounds like this....The Lion King ??

Young lion cub not ready to rule -> Escapes fate until beaten by monkey stick -> Comes back and defeats the raid boss.

[Lieri]

I'd also like to add this is the first expansion where going to the Inn feels like an actual relaxation for me, the actual player too. Then Lamat knocks on the door and all dreams are shattered.

[Ryaduera]

I'm going to be sick...

The scene after she succeeds with Koana coming into your ream reads like a bad fanfic where Self Insert OC Do Not Steal has their brother check on the actual canonical MC to confirm feelings of closeness. I mean the line is literally "You have become someone irreplaceable to her. As her brother, I acknowledge that with no little jealousy"

That reads like a child wrote it about their OC falling in love with Harry Potter, or WoL in this case, and it's actually gross and I want to scrub myself down to the BONE after feeling that absolute excrement poured onto me as the player. Absolutely vile... I wouldn't even want a replacement for her. I'd rather she go and leave me healthier for it, the cancerous lump she has turned out to be.

I'm not normally this harsh but damn that was bad

[Eyrilona]

First, on the lofty heights of Mt. Gulg where stood The Seat of Sacrifice, there came Emet-Selch and lo he stole away G'raha from us -- for a while at least and we did not see him for several quests.

Then, in the deepest of the Tempest, where Anamnesis Anyder lies, there came Elidibus and lo he stole away Y'shtola from us -- for a while at least, and we did not see her for several quests.

If anyone can find one of the unaccounted for Ascians, could you let them know we have a new cat?

[Amecoeur]

First, on the lofty heights of Mt. Gulg where stood The Seat of Sacrifice, there came Emet-Selch and lo he stole away G'raha from us -- for a while at least and we did not see him for several quests.

Then, in the deepest of the Tempest, where Anamnesis Anyder lies, there came Elidibus and lo he stole away Y'shtola from us -- for a while at least, and we did not see her for several quests.

If anyone can find one of the unaccounted for Ascians, could you let them know we have a new cat?

We do still have Gaia... we certainly can ask her for a favour...

[TheDustyOne]

We do still have Gaia... we certainly can ask her for a favour...

We'll put that Wuk in a box, then put that box inside of another box, and then we'll mail that box to Gaia, and when it arrives, she'll smash it with her hammer!

It's brilliant brilliant brilliant I tell you! Genius I say!

https://youtu.be/5Cx7jzq2Bx4

[ReynTime]

I've never seen the XIV fanbase so united like this since Heavensward

Brings a tear to my eye

[Mostly_Raxus]

the endsinger was right, Wuk is pure despair.. everyone back to the goth birbs

[lolnotacat]

the endsinger was right, Wuk is pure despair.. everyone back to the goth birbs

With the universe essentially being infinite, she almost certainly came across another planet that had its own Wuk Lamat. I'm certain that's what pushed her over the edge.

[typeaxiom]

I think this is what I can agree with, her character itself isn't entirely the issue. I believe it's the pacing and writing itself. Being at the level 96-ish part of the story I think watching her grow into her role has only solidified my fondness for her. Honestly I think the characters with the least amount of depth come from the other claimants. They just sort of throw a highly generic trope at them that drives their entire personality regardless of how absolutely insane their actions might seem to make the point. Even with some of them having revealed their reasons, it just feels like a stretch IMO.

I would like to echo this. At around 95 or 96, I think she hit the climax of her character arc and she was finally maturing! She just needs some more help (from someone not me) to shore up her inexperience and knowledge, and she can be a pretty decent leader.
We went off to America (with someone who wasn't her) and I had a pretty good impression of her.
And then she came crashing back into the story and I felt sick to my stomach.