JP Official Forums are also criticizing the Dawntrail MSQ.

[Sotaris]

You may or may not end up feeling the same way, The core of the issue for a lot of people is the sheer amount of screentime that revolves around Wuk Lamat and how most of the time we stand there like a doddering yes man, I honestly think besides a few dumb story elements aurrounding Mamook and Hanu, things have been mostly chill and fine, if they would just stop forcing Wuk Lamat constantly, It just doesnt stop and if you dont like her or have no interest in her, it makes for a bad experience, They've never done this before and you would think someone would have said maybe we should chill out a bit on the amount of Wuk Lamat time, but nope, it feels like some weird Social Experiment, how much can we make people who love our game play when we keep force feeding them a character over and over.

Why not quote me instead of saying "snip" I didn't write a whole chapter, lol.

And yes, I have joked that this been a nodding expansion but our character has more or less always been that way, we follow our companions and nodding along the way.

[BakoolJaJa]

(Finally registered on the forums many years after starting the game... because of DT.)

This is a nice compilation OP, I have no idea why somebody would jump to mental issues over you doing a reasonable thing and checking japanese forums. I do it myself sometimes, just turn on google translate and skim through the threads to try and get a feel for where they stand on certain issues. And often the different communities do diverge a lot, don't they? Things like healer strike and such.

It is a bit comforting to see that other people feel the same way as I do. Contrary to what some may think, I didn't go to Reddit/Forums because I wanted to fuel some hate circlejerk. I wanted to see that I am not completely out of touch is all. That I didn't suddenly grow out of my favorite game. I just recently did an almost complete replay of the entire story leading up to Dawntrail in fact. I am used to pacing issues, to fetch quests, to filler, to unvoiced cutscenes. I had no negative expectations going into DT. I wanted a vacation and lower stakes. I wasn't doomposting anywhere about how it's bound to suck. Hey, I didn't even dislike Wuk Lamat a single bit when she appeared in the patch. I was completely open going into the new expansion.

The whiplash DT gave me from the first seconds was unexpected. A lot of things just felt off from the get go. Really minor, tiny things, like how a lot of "action" suddenly got confined to cutscenes, from the very first ship in the storm part. In the previous expansions we would have gone from a cutscene in the storm to a gameplay part where we activate the shield, back into a cutscene. Now it's all cutscenes and this pattern continues through all of the expansion. (The train bit later in the story is another example) Most of even the most fetchy, filler gameplay got replaced with talking. But not the kind we had in Heavenward, where every line gave weight to the situation or carefully unraveled the tragic backstory of the dragonsong war. The talking now is all "*cultural greeting that gets turned into attempt at comedy* I am from X tribe, we have X stereotypical tribe tradition, help with tribe tradition, it's very important, you love to learn about cultures right?! Also we are very sad/happy, feel sad/happy with us, here is some comedy boinking noise so you laugh or some sad melody so you feel sad. Now pray return to Wuk Lamat."

I LOVE learning about new cultures. IRL and in games. I don't think I saw any new cultures in DT tbh. It's all very cardboard-ish, very basic and artificial, lots of rehashes. Vath were different. Lopporits, Omicron, Namazu, etc. The new ones really are just replicas of the old but in Tural...

Ugh, whatever, didn't come here to derail the thread into more complaints. I do hope feedback from the japanese side reaches the devs though. I really want the patches to be better so I can get hooked back into the story again. I don't want the game to fail, I love it, I only ever want it to be better.

[Reinha]

Shaaloani is where the story starts getting good... But then wuk comes back.

[cutestfox]

(Finally registered on the forums many years after starting the game... because of DT.)

Like many of us.
I thought I'd never come to these forums and post after playing for the last decade since 2.0

But many things are wrong here and things need to be said.
Those trying their hardest to sweep it under the rug and pretend everything is fine are damaging my favorite MMO, and I can't turn a blind eye to it any longer

[Malthir]

I do to love see people say, I think I'm finally free of Wuk. I've just gone to zone 4.
I'm just sitting here, like, Soon Soon.

[BakoolJaJa]

I do love see people say, I thing I'm finally free of Wuk, I've just gone to zone 4 and I'm just sitting here, like, Soon Soon.

I wish I hadn't read the "second part of the story get better" promises some people were posting. They probably meant well. But man... Maybe if I didn't get my hopes up, I wouldn't have gotten even more disappointed. Even ignoring Wuk Lamat, I just can't get rid of the feeling that I've already seen this entire story essentially 1 to 1.

[EusisLandale]

Even ignoring Wuk Lamat, I just can't get rid of the feeling that I've already seen this entire story essentially 1 to 1.

"Behold the Final Days of Amaurot Alexandria"

[Roshidon1]

Honestly it is a good thing they released Dawntrail when WoW is in a lull or I probably wouldn't be playing this at all. I havn't got far but I completed the first area with the Hanu Hanu and now I'm on to Urqopacha and I am skipping most of the dialoggue just because it is so boring. Like...really? The crops in the first area were dying because people were...sad and we had to make them feel better?

And apparently now I am supposed to capture an Alpaca?

[DaveFishnomer]

Wow. Crazy. You know how to look up old posts.

I mean, if that makes you look better to your forum friends, be my guest.

Someone is mad for being shown a hypocrite

[Aurumis]

The whole story has been like this for me. The Warrior of Light had no business being involved. Krile and Erenville could have gone off and done this by themselves and given us a brief synopsis when they got back while we went and actually had our vacation somewhere else. We should have told Wuk Lamat "no," since unlike every other "Warrior of Light enjoys helping the powerless" quest, Wuk Lamat wasn't even that. She was a literal princess with no actual problems, all the resources she needed at her disposal, who ended up somehow always having the right answer despite her naivety. She literally went across the ocean to turn the world's most powerful hero into a show poodle so she could skip around the continent with us sitting patiently on a leash by her side like a status symbol.

this sumarizes pretty well how I felt, I can't care less about her, In the beginning I thought she was kind of nice? But then Dawntrail started and omg I can't with this shitty writting, the WoL has no motivation at all to be here. We should have gone with Estinien in the first place. At least he got the real adventure.