Moon Miqo'te Face 4 feedback

[SturmChurro]

What the heck did they do to my face 4 nose miqo?!

[Roda]

SHE'S BACK!

[Neviklink]

I personally would rather the gap have stayed gone, it results in weirdness for the lips in cut scenes. A white line where there should be none.

Edit: I feel the gap exists her and with some others simply because the overbite is big.

[Neviklink]

an example of such

[smitten_miquitten]

I'm SO SO glad they brought it back! My Wol's adorable smile is preserved! She looks like an angel.
I was so scared they were going to listen to the people that wanted it changed, despite saying they wanted to preserve the feel of our characters as best as possible. Changing it wouldn't be preservation, and there are other lip options without the gap.

SHE'S BACK!

[ConantSivrha]

there are other lip options without the gap.

Only if you want to use a completely different face.

It would've been better if they added the lips without a gap as new options for face 4, while keeping the lips with gaps as the default.

To me, it looks like they shrunk the lips (compared to the benchmark) to bring the gap back, instead of actually parting the lips, which worsened the change to the size of the lips (lips were already smaller in the benchmark compared to Endwalker, at least on some face 4 mouths). For the sake of those who liked the lip gap, I'm glad it wasn't removed, but I would've preferred a solution that also works for those who don't like the gap, or who found their overall lip size more important to their character's appearance than the gap.

[Cheapshot]

Only if you want to use a completely different face.

It would've been better if they added the lips without a gap as new options for face 4, while keeping the lips with gaps as the default.

To me, it looks like they shrunk the lips (compared to the benchmark) to bring the gap back, instead of actually parting the lips, which worsened the change to the size of the lips (lips were already smaller in the benchmark compared to Endwalker, at least on some face 4 mouths). For the sake of those who liked the lip gap, I'm glad it wasn't removed, but I would've preferred a solution that also works for those who don't like the gap, or who found their overall lip size more important to their character's appearance than the gap.

Yes. I appreciate that they're listening and willing to respond to our feedback, but it wasn't the solution I was hoping for. If they had shaped the lip more like the original the lip gap would have come with it. They did in fact just add a gap to the new mouth by reforming the inside of the lips to create one. The new mouth I find looks bad overall and has a lot of problems with shading and lighting. I'm trying to find the energy to maybe submit a bug report about it.

[Lnemoh]

Having passed on the benchmark, I waited and saw my character for the first time when early access started. Aside from the slightly different eye shape that I can live with, my biggest issue is the horrible shading around the lips - namely the edges of the lips.




This makes my character look like a grandma or an automaton. I haven't seen anyone post anything about this, so I figured I'd share it here in hopes that the smoothing groups around the lips get fixed.

[Nayska]

SHE'S BACK!

It was so much better when this was gone, now it makes her looks weird in cutscenes

[Cheapshot]

Reposting this from the Dawntrail character graphics update megathread, just to follow up in here.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6513666

This took me a few days to put together. I want to be super super super clear, this isn't some big long post saying that I demand all this stuff be restored. That would be absurd. I don't expect that. I probably don't even want that. I'll make an effort at the end to detail a small wish list of suggestions that I think would help restore the original feel of the face.

This is just me doing my best to document everything that changed with my characters face in a useful and organized manner. My hope is it can be used as a general reference for people who don't fully know what changed about their Miqo'te Face 4 characters. With any luck maybe by the developers as well. I was a professional illustrator for years and I also have a 30 gig FFXIV screenshot folder of my character so obviously my eye is going to notice changes that others wont. Please understand that I KNOW this is a lot. Just try not to jump down my throat about it without reading my intentions.








Hopefully these images scale.

So with all that documented and out of the way, I'll make a shortlist of suggestions down below. I feel much less attachment to the game now that my character of years looks so uncanny to me. I don't like how doll-like and unfocused she looks now, or how my tomboy look was made more delicate.



A few things I think seem like problems that need to be fixed rather than intentional design:
- Solve the current "cloudy" greyness issue of the eyes, and make sure eye shine isn't dulled by shadows
- Remove the gloss from the lips when "none" is selected under lip colour as it was before and remove or reduce the incorrectly shaped drawn on lip shadow
- Tone down the shadows cast by the upper eyelids

And here is the list of what I would love to be changed specific to my characters features that might bring back her original feel better:
-Raise the corners of the eyes back up and switch back to the old lashes
-Restore all curves the nose used to have
-Rework the mouth shape and texture to be more similar to the original. Remove mouth corner indents.
-Reduce the shine on the nose to just the nose tip instead of the whole bridge

I would also love if things like eyelashes could be made a selection because I much prefer the look of the older lashes, but I know many like the new ones better. I don't like all the changes that made my character look more feminine, since when I chose this face it was my intention to have a character that was more of a tom-boy. The character creator could use substantial improvements in general.

Anyways, thanks for your time. Sorry this is so much. I just wanted to take my negative feelings about the update and be constructive with them instead.