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  1. #31
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    PercibelTheren's Avatar
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    Percibel Theren
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Malthir View Post
    So other people can't play or do something skillfully because you couldn't so now they must die cause you stood in the glowy puddle of doom? Don't get me wrong I got clapped by more than my share of moves and died cause I'm dumb, but that's on me so I sit floor tank in shame as I should, if I get a res great if I didn't I aint got no one to blame but my own mistake
    The tank gets hit by the same mechanics the rest of the party does 90% of the time, except they can just ignore it because...they're tanks. It's not as dramatic right now that everyone is running around in grey/green MSQ gear and tanks are actually fairly squishy-ish, but in a few weeks, we'll be back to them needing to have 5+ vuln stacks to be in any kind of danger. It's not skill if you can just ignore mechanics and get away with it.
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  2. #32
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    playing other games like yoshida intended
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    Character
    Alondite Ragnell
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Maybe dont die and leave the tank to fight the boss alone?
    Idk this sounds like a skill issue
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  3. #33
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    Rehayem's Avatar
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    Character
    Yasu Naoya
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I've had similar experiences quite often if I'm not tank myself. My own general rule is, if I'm last one standing early in the fight, I'll wipe. Too many times I've been dead on the floor for 15+ minutes because both tanks wanted to duo the boss from 80% (example: Asura fight)
    (5)

  4. #34
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Character
    Zumi Kasumi
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I had to solo one dungeon boss from 50% because the other 3 people kept getting hit from stuff on the ground and died. When I killed it they were all happy that I did because the boss was hard for them.
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    Last edited by Zumi; 07-04-2024 at 09:14 AM.

  5. #35
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    Hycinthus's Avatar
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    Character
    Alonzo Vivas
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Can't this all be solved by a simple message?
    From the tank -- "want me to continue or wipe?"
    From the party -- "let's just wipe, it's faster?"
    99% people will follow what the party wants.

    Each case is going to be different.
    Some parties want the tanks to continue, some parties don't.

    All conflicts just arise from lack of communication.
    A simple message in /party can resolve this?
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  6. #36
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Character
    Isala Zuntrios
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    People out here like "Stop wasting the dead group's time." Brother, you are a floor decoration. There's no guarantee that you won't be a floor decoration for the next pull, and the next pull after that. If you cannot handle the absolutely braindead dungeon mechanics by the time you hit several expansions in, I'm not wasting our time even longer by giving you a second, third, fourth shot at a fight that you'll end up making me solo in the end anyway.
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    Last edited by Isala; 07-04-2024 at 09:15 AM.

  7. #37
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    Usually when I tank I take pride in helping the healer and DPS learn the mechanics instead of talking to them like they're dirt for struggling with content. Maybe you should play trusts if you don't need other people.
    (4)
    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

  8. #38
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    Galvuu's Avatar
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    Character
    Galveira Vorfeed
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    So much "skill issue" flying around when Dawntrail has been out for literally less than a week, even counting early access.
    Most of these dungeons are deadly. I farmed up my gear for the extreme trials yesterday and saw many new players die. A lot of bosses also have very "gotcha!" moments that you need to see once to understand (esp the first boss of the desert expert dungeon).
    How are they supposed to learn, osmosis? It's not like undergeared healers/dps can soak 3 vuln stacks and shrug it off.
    Some people in this thread actually abusing "tank privilege" and trying to make Warrior sound like a challenging job. I've seen it all.
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  9. #39
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    EdwinChucklenuts's Avatar
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    Character
    Edwin Saebeorn
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Because all you're doing is wasting people's time. You aren't making the dungeon go any faster by flexing your WAR or Tank Muscles by self-sustaining from 50% to 0%. Nobody cares. It's faster to wipe and start again if that many people are dead before 5% or even 10%.

    When people do this, they detract from people's gameplay and might as well just have not played the fight at all - and I doubt SE will do anything about it considering they're dead set on making Tanks Invincible(unless you're DRK).
    Have you tried not dying?
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  10. #40
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Character
    Andreas Cestelle
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Tank takes 8 vuln stacks and still doesn’t die because tanks are hilariously overtuned

    DPS dies in 2 hits

    Tank- sounds like a skill issue sweaty have you tried just being immortal like me while I pretend it took skill to survive with 7 vuln stacks
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