[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

[little_diem]

Americans have always been big ones on claiming they are their heritage when they're most definitely not, as a person who is distanced from both Europe and the Americas, i will always say to the face on an American claiming they're French, Scottish, Chinese, African, German whatever, No you're just an American. 9 times out of 10 these people get some level of culture shock when they actually visit the country they purportedly claim to be of.

you do realize puerto rico is a territory of the U.S. right? and, that puerto ricans are U.S. Citizens?

[CosmoBabylonia]

you do realize puerto rico is a territory of the U.S. right? and, that puerto ricans are U.S. Citizens?

I will just say this to you...

We've had a few native South American Spanish speakers specifically come in here to say that Wuk's accent is garbage and it's borderline offensive or racist. How about you go fight with them and see who is the disrespectful person here. I will gladly dig through this thread to find them for you even.

I am of Asian descent and I don't have an accent. The only time I do, is when I force myself to speak like that. Where does the notion that every minority should have an accent even come from? Isn't that inherently racist?

[little_diem]

I will just say this to you...

We've had a few native South American Spanish speakers specifically come in here to say that Wuk's accent is garbage and it's borderline offensive or racist. How about you go fight with them and see who is the disrespectful person here. I will gladly dig through this thread to find them for you even.

I am of Asian descent and I don't have an accent. The only time I do, is when I force myself to speak like that. Where does the notion that every minority should have an accent even come from? Isn't that inherently racist?

That's my point, the spanish spoken in puerto rico is a different dialect than south american spanish and therefore sounds different, and portuguese is a different language all together. Doesn't make it garbage. And, i have no idea what you're going on about. When did i say anything about every minority having accent. i'm responding to the post talking about her "fake" portuguese accent; wuk lamat doesn't have a portugese accent, she has a puerto rican one. (by the way, i'm puerto rican)

[CosmoBabylonia]

That's my point, the spanish spoken in puerto rico is a different dialect than south american spanish and therefore sounds different, and portuguese is a different language all together. Doesn't make it garbage. And, i have no idea what you're going on about. When did i say anything about every minority having accent. i'm responding to the post talking about her "fake" portuguese accent; wuk lamat doesn't have a portugese accent, she has a puerto rican one. (by the way, i'm puerto rican)

Explain further I am hearing conflicting things now.

[ZodaSoda]

you do realize puerto rico is a territory of the U.S. right? and, that puerto ricans are U.S. Citizens?

Yes and people born and raised in Idaho are not Puerto Ricans and even if their parents where, they would, like i said have some level of culture shock if they visited New York, let alone Puerto Rico, in fact a person of Puerto Rican Heritage who grew up in Hawaii is going to have different views and values to a someone of Puerto Rican heritage who grew up in Alaska, and neither of them are Puerto Ricans. This is not a hard concept, you dont get to adopt the actual lived culture of a place because your parents, grand parents or whatever are from there, you are where you grew up for the most part and it takes a lot of time living in a new place to change to become integrated in a culture you did not grow up in, and even then i bet the locals would still generally refer to you as an out of towner.

[Raven2014]

Yes and people born and raised in Idaho are not Puerto Ricans and even if their parents where, they would, like i said have some level of culture shock if they visited New York, let alone Puerto Rico, in fact a person of Puerto Rican Heritage who grew up in Hawaii is going to have different views and values to a someone of Puerto Rican heritage who grew up in Alaska, and neither of them are Puerto Ricans. This is not a hard concept, you dont get to adopt the actual lived culture of a place because your parents, grand parents or whatever are from there, you are where you grew up for the most part and it takes a lot of time living in a new place to change to become integrated in a culture you did not grow up in, and even then i bet the locals would still generally refer to you as an out of towner.

Yeah, I think a lot of people have this misconception that accent is a generic/race thing, but it's an environment thing. Most people develop their accent through interaction by listening to others and - subconsciously - imitative what we hear (kinda of like a survival instinct to fit in). This process does stop or greatly diminish as we get older because the part of our brain that control language/speaking are mostly developed as children. The reason some people may retain their 'native' accent is again, not because they inherit a gene, but because the majority of childhood interaction are with their parents and closed family, and pick up the accent from there.

My country had a very distinct accent between north and south. Up to when I was 6 most of my interaction was with my Northen side of my family, and thus I spoke with a distinct northern accent. But after that I had more interaction with the southern side of the family, espeically I also started going to school and we lived in the south. By the time I was 10 or 12, I had lost all of my Northern accent speak with a natural southern accent instead.

In short, the way someone speak does not represent their race or culture of origin, it just represents where they grew up from.

[little_diem]

Yeah, I think a lot of people have this misconception that accent is a generic/race thing

I said nothing of the sort. If you go back and read my post, I was responding to people commenting about the accent the VA gave wuk lamat. They stated it's a "fake Portuguese" accent, and I noted that would be because it isn't a Portuguese accent; Wuk Lamat has a Puerto Rican accent, and that's probably the result of the VA being Puerto Rican. Someone responded that she's not Puerto Rican because she's from Kentucky, and I was pointing out that you can be both Puerto Rican and from Kentucky. I'm Puerto Rican, and I live in the States. See! It's possible!

[little_diem]

Yes and people born and raised in Idaho are not Puerto Ricans and even if their parents where, they would, like i said have some level of culture shock if they visited New York, let alone Puerto Rico, in fact a person of Puerto Rican Heritage who grew up in Hawaii is going to have different views and values to a someone of Puerto Rican heritage who grew up in Alaska, and neither of them are Puerto Ricans. This is not a hard concept, you dont get to adopt the actual lived culture of a place because your parents, grand parents or whatever are from there, you are where you grew up for the most part and it takes a lot of time living in a new place to change to become integrated in a culture you did not grow up in, and even then i bet the locals would still generally refer to you as an out of towner.

lol, what?