Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[Malthir]

Then your claims is false and irrelevant.

What?
That response didn't even make sense, what claims are false. That she's a 2D poorly written background NPC that's been pushed to the front of the plot?

She has no depth, her entire story to this point is, I want to lead my people because I do. She impulsive, ignorant of the world around her, insecure, again basically written as a cliché of a teenager.
I asked you to name a single redeeming character trait that she has and you couldn't

[Graveyardprincess]

What?
That response didn't even make sense, what claims are false. That she's a 2D poorly written background NPC that's been pushed to the front of the plot?

She has no depth, her entire story to this point is, I want to lead my people because I do. She impulsive, ignorant of the world around her, insecure, again basically written as a cliché of a teenager.
I asked you to name a single redeeming character trait that she has and you couldn't

guess if a you think it is a teenage cliche, i guess those are better written than 99% of things anymore, because honestly she is perfect being impulisve and emotional driven are good because its honest.. unlike how old people hide behind the mask of bs. Honestly she is extremely well written you should go watch some monster high movies and read vampire kisses/the summoning then you will learn why she is perfect

[CosmoBabylonia]

guess if a you think it is a teenage cliche, i guess those are better written than 99% of things anymore, because honestly she is perfect being impulisve and emotional driven are good because its honest.. unlike how old people hide behind the mask of bs. Honestly she is extremely well written you should go watch some monster high movies and read vampire kisses/the summoning then you will learn why she is perfect

You absolutely do not want impulsive and emotionally vulnerable leaders.

Just give Machiavelli a read and it will change your perspective on what an effective leader has to think about.

The greatest example I want to give of an impulsive and emotionally unstable/vulnerable leader is the fabled Austrian Painter himself. You can probably find essays on his mental well being as well as his impulsive nature; hell the entire Eastern Front just speaks for itself.

[Raven2014]

guess if a you think it is a teenage cliche, i guess those are better written than 99% of things anymore, because honestly she is perfect being impulisve and emotional driven are good because its honest..

It's called naive. Kid are wonderfully innocent, that also make them easy to manipulate. Also let me remind you some very simple fact of life:

- For someone to be old, they had to be young before.

- But someone who is still young, they had never been old before.

It mean chance is, the same people you are arguing against once upon a time, thought exact the same way you do ... until they grew up. But you have never had a chance to think like they do. Seeing you show so much hate for the old and growth up, you better brace yourself so you don't end up hating yourself in another decade or two. Unless you believe you're someone super special that would be able to avoid the path countless generation had walked before you, in that case you should think about running for president heh?

[Graveyardprincess]

It's called naive. Kid are wonderfully innocent, that also make them easy to manipulate. Also let me remind you some very simple fact of life:

- For someone to be old, they had to be young before.

- But someone who is still young, they had never been old before.

It mean chance is, the same people you are arguing against once upon a time, thought exact the same way you do ... until they grew up. But you have never had a chance to think like they do. Seeing you show so much hate for the old and growth up, you better brace yourself so you don't end up hating yourself in another decade or two. Unless you believe you're someone super special that would be able to avoid the path countless generation had walked before you, in that case you should think about running for president heh?

and you think old people are hard to manipulate? if choice to could scam a punch of old people so easily out of 10k + in real life so not really saying anything beside these old people are the same dumb people falling for scams irl

[Raven2014]

and you think old people are hard to manipulate if choice to could scam a punch of old people so easily out of 10k + in real life so not really saying anything beside these old people are the same dumb people falling for scams irl

That actually doesn't favor your argument the way you think it does. The reason those "old people" get easily scam exactly because their mental degradation make them vulnerable like kids. I'm taking care of my parent who is 70+, and a lot of time it feels like I'm dealing with a kid rather than adult. But like I said, good luck with not hating yourself eventually once you finish doing the grow up.

[Graveyardprincess]

That actually doesn't favor your argument the way you think it does. The reason those "old people" get easily scam exactly because their mental degradation make them vulnerable like kids. I'm taking care of my parent who is 70+, and a lot of time it feels like I'm dealing with a kid rather than adult. But like I said, good luck with not hating yourself eventually once you finish doing the grow up.

oh please a. I have no intention of ever aging nor allowing it to effect me and b. i cant be manipulated at all i am immune to both counts

[nebby00]

Haven't posted on the forums for so long, but I have to agree for now. I don't really care much for Wuk Lamat, even in the post patches that did introduce her, although she was meant to be an innocent, impulsive character it feels like they went way too much into it. Having her be a one note character spamming "I want to be the Dawnservant" over and over, and having "hehe haha quirky" moments is good in small doses, but not good when it's all the character does. I'm still in the beginning of Dawntrail's story, and Wuk Lamat really doesn't seem like a leadership type of person. Hopefully she does develop into a more competent and less emotionally impulsive character and maybe gains more wisdom later in the MSQ, just going to remain a bit on the dislike Wuk side until I form more of an opinion on her. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised by the end of the MSQ (really hoping I will be)!