Dawntrail could live to be an amazing expansion with one single huge flaw?

[GrizzlyTank]

DT doesn't really have a great big plot hook to draw you in, and the new stuff Jobs are getting seem quite underwhelming at best.

Literally the only thing the expansion has to stand on will be it's story.

And unfortunately have tempered expectations to the story since they have consistently opted to chop off the political drama of it, as well as ignoring side-quests cause they don't want another crystal tower situations... Even though that's one of the reasons we grew to love the story.

[Kes13a]

White Mage: Your party mitigation gets a party mitigation followup. Every 2 minutes you get to hit 3 three times instead of continuing to hit 1.
Scholar: 20 second heal spam mode every 3 minutes. You get another dot every 2 minutes.
Sage: 20 second heal spam mode every 3 minutes. You get an AoE dot, which would've been amazing except contrary to media tour it can not stack with the other dot making it trash/double boss use only. You get an oGCD nuke once a minute.

Only Astrologian is really getting anything that could be called real changes.

yeah, HUGE changes. I feel like I have been to this dance before....

[Brightamethyst]

Yeah, no. I'm keeping my expectations for Yawntrail in check.

You're calling it 'Yawntrail' before it's even out. Your expectations are are far past being in check.

[Sunhwapark]

Honestly, I'm more excited for the upcoming thread of "What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Dawntrail?", followed by 900+ pages of lore enthusiasts bickering and comparing the characters they don't like to being the equivalent of a McDonald's Happy Meal.

[SpiralMask]

You're calling it 'Yawntrail' before it's even out. Your expectations are are far past being in check.

hey man, it'll be fun to enjoy more of exactly the same gameplay, unless that gameplay is itself soulcrushing or boring, especially for solo and story-centric fights

[KageTokage]

it's only a flaw if you are one of the few who aren't liking the direction SE is going in with the jobs.

I am very concerned for this game's future if the majority are actually happy with getting one or two new buttons to hit once every two minutes.

[Musashidon]

I am very concerned for this game's future if the majority are actually happy with getting one or two new buttons to hit once every two minutes.

why? we are steadily getting and keeping more and more players so it's not like the game is even close to being worried about dying or even hurting.

i will also say not all expansions are the same just because this one didn't add anything amazing and over the top doesnt mean we will never see something new or different in another.

[CaptainLagbeard]

The biggest changes seem to be for healers

What Healers actually got
WHM : A dash, and the a new spell they can use 3 times every 2 minutes.
SCH : A 15s DoT they can apply every 2 minutes
SGE : A new attack they can use once a minute.
AST: Guaranteed ability to get Lord of Crowns for a 400 Potency attack, a new attack with a 2min CD, their DPS boosting cards are on a 60s CD instead of the previous 30s and Astrodyne is removed.

[SpiralMask]

why? we are steadily getting and keeping more and more players so it's not like the game is even close to being worried about dying or even hurting.

i will also say not all expansions are the same just because this one didn't add anything amazing and over the top doesnt mean we will never see something new or different in another.

given that we're on year 4+ of a massive downgrade with little added in exchange, i'm seeing a historical pattern of not adding new or different things...
like, new players wont know the difference, but if next expac is more of the same spread thinner across another 10 levels? (or whatever secondary system they may be considering later, as obliquely mentioned in interviews about the level cap)
they'll be slightly disappointed, while existing players get to look forward to another 2 years of the same.
as long as new players keep getting in each time we'll have a nice conga line of people who dont know the difference, so is the end goal to just accept that the gameplay is bland for non-newbies and just focus on the story?

unless there's some sort of shakeup at some point it's going to be a rather unexciting time outside of the story at the very least.

[Ramiee]

it's only a flaw if you are one of the few who aren't liking the direction SE is going in with the jobs.

One of the few thousands of people who hate the 2 minute meta that is literally the only thing JP agrees with us on lol?