Bazaars are for transactions, not -bleep- storage!

[Alhanelem]

It's obviously a QQ thread. Especialy after implementation of ward search, merge and 1.22 access to international wards (from any city) this "problem" that you keep crying about over and over in this thread is such a minor thing that its not even worth mentioning. At this point its nothing but telling others that they should listen to you and use bazaar as intended. Bazaar is completely out dated and useless cause everything in game is easily obtainable via ward search. Just because a system gets outdated at some point in game doesnt mean that you have to cry about it and require some change, its still usefull for other purposes mentioned above and theres no emergency to change anything about it right now, seeing how there thousands of other things that should be prioritized. So stop making a big deal out of it. If you are trying to make ppl use bazaar as intended - you fail, if you are trying to reach devs by continuous crying you will only get some answer like "this issue will be overlooked after 2.0" so you are failing either way. Thanks for reading, find better reason to cry...

Except it's not. Sure, it might be an "attention getting" topic title. It's an suggestion born from a frustrating experience but sure, whatever moronic people who haven't come to post AWW LOOK AT THE QQ! yet. I'm sure there's a few more of you left.

force my ideas upon them

I'm not forcing anything on anyone. Nobody forced you to read the suggestion or agree with it.

Wait... people actually still expect to buy something from a player's bazaar?

Interesting.

Congrats guys, you just figured out the whole problem with the bazaar system. Nobody uses it for what it's designed for because people found some other uses for it (including some that are arguably cheating). The whole point of this thread is to find a way to restore the bazaar's original function. It's beyond me how so many trolls can come in here and find it to be such a horrible idea to make something work the way it was originally desgined to work.

I put items in for 999m when im doing things like Toto Rak so I can always get double seals when I return back to my Grand Company. I hope they don't prevent this.

This is very obviously an exploit and they probably will prevent it in the future. Though instead of being jerks about it, they could just increase the points awarded fort hose items.

[Impulse]

Except it's not. Sure, it might be an "attention getting" topic title. It's an suggestion born from a frustrating experience but sure, whatever moronic people who haven't come to post AWW LOOK AT THE QQ! yet. I'm sure there's a few more of you left.

I'm not forcing anything on anyone. Nobody forced you to read the suggestion or agree with it.

Congrats guys, you just figured out the whole problem with the bazaar system. Nobody uses it for what it's designed for because people found some other uses for it (including some that are arguably cheating). The whole point of this thread is to find a way to restore the bazaar's original function. It's beyond me how so many trolls can come in here and find it to be such a horrible idea to make something work the way it was originally desgined to work.

This is very obviously an exploit and they probably will prevent it in the future. Though instead of being jerks about it, they could just increase the points awarded fort hose items.

You can blame the launch and general structure of bazaars for the sorry state that the system is in and why it has (to my knowledge) stayed that way, and probably will stay until 2.0. Here's a little story for you!

Back in the first few weeks before it became the norm to stuff extra items in your bazaar, I found a pretty damn cheap mid-R20 range polearm that I could use in the near future. Naturally, I wanted to buy it before somebody else did.

Great! It was used properly back then. Guess what happened next? I got to chase the person down for about 2 minutes before I finally sent the player a tell politely asking them to stop so that I could actually purchase the weapon. Not sure if it's still the same way now since there is very little reason to check, but your character is frozen in place while the bazaar window is up.

Combine that with the lack of notification for your bazaar being examined by X player as well as the fact that you need to be within trading range to actually buy something, you have a clunky, highly user-unfriendly system which is a hassle to even think about utilizing.

Sorry to say, but we're playing in 1.X's limitations and I really don't see the bazaar system as a high priority fix before the relaunch. Maybe in 2.0 when they revamp everything we'll see something of an improvement.

[NoctisUmbra]

Except it's not. Sure, it might be an "attention getting" topic title. It's an suggestion born from a frustrating experience but sure, whatever moronic people who haven't come to post AWW LOOK AT THE QQ! yet. I'm sure there's a few more of you left.

I'm not forcing anything on anyone. Nobody forced you to read the suggestion or agree with it.

Congrats guys, you just figured out the whole problem with the bazaar system. Nobody uses it for what it's designed for because people found some other uses for it (including some that are arguably cheating). The whole point of this thread is to find a way to restore the bazaar's original function. It's beyond me how so many trolls can come in here and find it to be such a horrible idea to make something work the way it was originally desgined to work.

This is very obviously an exploit and they probably will prevent it in the future. Though instead of being jerks about it, they could just increase the points awarded fort hose items.

I don't care what they do to the bazaar system, short of making it some ridiculously gimmicky thing for nothing, the Market Wards will still outright beat it. So quit grieving over nothing.

Now, you can continue to push your idea of an exploit and w/e morals you find are being tarnished via this use of it all you want, but short of being an eyesore to someone like you it has no tangible negative effect on anybody.

[Rokien]

I don't care what they do to the bazaar system, short of making it some ridiculously gimmicky thing for nothing, the Market Wards will still outright beat it. So quit grieving over nothing.

Now, you can continue to push your idea of an exploit and w/e morals you find are being tarnished via this use of it all you want, but short of being an eyesore to someone like you it has no tangible negative effect on anybody.

I sell things in my bazzar all the time, if everyone was like "use bazaar is storage" People wouldn't look in em anymore, there for I wouldn't sell things.

So yes, it does effect everyone.

[NoctisUmbra]

I sell things in my bazzar all the time, if everyone was like "use bazaar is storage" People wouldn't look in em anymore, there for I wouldn't sell things.

So yes, it does effect everyone.

Dense Rokien is dense again.

The Market Wards is better in every way. It gets more traffic as a plus for the seller, and has more competitive prices as a plus for the buyer. It's also in a single spot accessible by everyone. There's no reason to actually use a bazaar to sell anything. If everyone decided to put shit up for sale on their bazaars only - and most people don't even fill their entire bazaar with storage - the market wards would still be preferred. This is why people stopped using their personal bazaars.

So other than to play devil's advocate here on the forums, or to just try and sell shit that way for w.e personal reasons you may have, there's no reason for you to reduce your ability to sell efficiently by using a personal bazaar over the market wards.

[Rokien]

Dense Rokien is dense again.

The Market Wards is better in every way. It gets more traffic as a plus for the seller, and has more competitive prices as a plus for the buyer. It's also in a single spot accessible by everyone. There's no reason to actually use a bazaar to sell anything. If everyone decided to put shit up for sale on their bazaars only - and most people don't even fill their entire bazaar with storage - the market wards would still be preferred. This is why people stopped using their personal bazaars.

So other than to play devil's advocate here on the forums, or to just try and sell shit that way for w.e personal reasons you may have, there's no reason for you to reduce your ability to sell efficiently by using a personal bazaar over the market wards.

Ya it is better, but doesn't change the fact I have made a few mil just from my bazaar in a few nights.

So what way am I dense?

[NoctisUmbra]

Ya it is better, but doesn't change the fact I have made a few mil just from my bazaar in a few nights.

So what way am I dense?

That's because you could have used the market wards to make those few mils, and probably a lot faster too.

Also, because people still do actually use their bazaars for trying to sell shit as well as for storage and clearly people check bazaars still so there's no problem here. Let the people who use some slots or even all as storage do what they want. Fact of the matter is unless SE makes the personal bazaars a lot more functional and appealing, people are going to continue to use it however they can benefit from it best regardless of if some guy makes a thread asking/telling them to stop.

It shouldn't free up 10 spaces because you still have to "carry it" that's why I see it as cheating.

That's fine and dandy. Makes sense. What I'd expect to happen if they did that wouldn't be more people legitimately trying to sell things though. Rather a lot more players with no bazaar icon up at all. Why? Because the market wards are better in every way!

[Rokien]

That's because you could have used the market wards to make those few mils, and probably a lot faster too.

Also, because people still do actually use their bazaars for trying to sell shit as well as for storage and clearly people check bazaars still so there's no problem here. Let the people who use some slots or even all as storage do what they want. Fact of the matter is unless SE makes the personal bazaars a lot more functional and appealing, people are going to continue to use it however they can benefit from it best regardless of if some guy makes a thread asking/telling them to stop.



That's fine and dandy. Makes sense. What I'd expect to happen if they did that wouldn't be more people legitimately trying to sell things though. Rather a lot more players with no bazaar icon up at all. Why? Because the market wards are better in every way!

-.- I do sell stuff, my npcs are full... can't put stuff in them(sell), so I put stuff in my bazaar... come on now.

[Payadopa]

Because the market wards are better in every way!

In every way? Imagine a place where you can't access the wards (like, outside of a city). Yep, that's what bazzars are for.

I root for the OP. Keep it going, man! /cheer

Also, I didn't even know that you can store unique items in your bazzar and optain a 2nd one. lol Going by the word unique I can't see how that is not cheating.

Just my two cents.

And no need to flame me. I just want to be heard by the devs. ^^y Thanks for reading.