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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea-Wolf View Post
    Ryne and Gaia's love story shows that LGBT romance does add substantial to the story and is also at the same time nuanced... But CBU3 is refusing to make another queer love story.
    Wait, they were gay? They just seemed like a couple chick friends to me. I guess it proves you can project your own point of view into the narrative, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I can't speak for everyone, but if the respondents are anything like me, the reply isn't necessarily for the OP but for this particular narrative and anyone who adopts the mindset. Because whether or not the post is sincere, this is an unfortunate reality that exists in our society.

    Also. Some people are just bored. It's draught season in FFXIV right now. If the OP posted this the same week as DT launch, I assure you it would get buried very quickly.
    How is LGBT representation in story an unfortunate Reality Hm?
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  3. #43
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    Also you guys already got Asahi. So, thread over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensui View Post
    Also you guys already got Asahi. So, thread over.
    No, no, you guy can have him. Here, take him, he's yours:
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  5. #45
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    the game already has gay marriage, you are free to make your character as gay as you like, stop forcing your sexuality on other peoples characters, even the developers characters.

    heck we dont really mention straight couples in this game all that often outside of saying X has parents, this game isn't about who we are sleeping with, its about the sacrifices our character makes to save the world.

    if you want gay people to feel accepted then accept them and stop treating them like a segregated group, not every story's narrative need make room for your own insecurities.
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  6. #46
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    Damn, I'm reading some comments and even if this post is bait or not some of you should check your homophobia!

    Now with that being said I'll give my opinion as a bi man with more lean to men lately. Characters as Dion are great not because they're gay, but because they're well-written. Dion is a great character that happens to be gay, it is true if you take his relationship out (won't dig deeper to avoid spoilers) he's still a great character. Normally I really find all this kind of conversation pretty much US centered when the rest of the world doesn't have this issue in the same gravity as US does.

    It happened with Dawntrail announcement: People claiming and jumping to conclusions just because the new region is based on America, and we suffered from English, Portuguese and Spanish colonizers that robbed our gold and our resources, and it happens these new regions are rich in gold and ceruleum. But guess what? No one asked Americans and especially Latin Americans what we think about all this, since most of us were happy to see references to our cultures and SEA.

    Some should get their heads out of your privileged country and understand inclusivity is something that only happens there because your country is full of white supremacists and even nazi people that oppress minorities. That doesn't happen in every country at the same scale and since we don't ask for inclusivity.

    Asking a Japanese developer to respond to US and even EU demands like if some of you were Social Justice Warriors is racist and annoying. Inclusivity happens naturally, it's not a checklist they have to respect, they do it because they feel like it and that's why characters like Dion work so well, because they're a character first, and he happens to be gay. The same is with people, we're people first, not a category that needs representation in every corner of media or country. Western demands are not the same in Japan, and we have to understand this when some say FF is racist for not having a black or PoC main character, it's a Japanese game what were you expecting?
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    That only works until a moderator nips your own "not a low-effort troll, but still controversial and important" thread in the bud.

    Not going to ask for that to happen. We can either ignore the low-effort trolls or no. After all, folks who complain about responding to troll threads have been posting here regardless.
    Yeah, an issue with the forum is how blocking a poster doesn't completely hide everything relating them in your feed. And even then they'll just turn to necroing a bunch of threads if they can't get any other engagement.
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  8. #48
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    100% ... whether you're gay or not gay.. should your sexual preferences define your character? I get having a kink and all that but, I really can't believe it *defines* your core identity....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea-Wolf View Post
    Ryne and Gaia's love story shows that LGBT romance does add substantial to the story and is also at the same time nuanced... But CBU3 is refusing to make another queer love story.
    Do people not know what friendship is or something
    this happens with rean and crow in trails too, clear friends turned into a relationship for no reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Do people not know what friendship is or something
    this happens with rean and crow in trails too, clear friends turned into a relationship for no reason
    Rinoa And Squall were in Romantic relationship too... And Ryne and Gaia were modeled after FF8.
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