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  1. #3741
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    + for the mitigation, meh. Sure, I guess. But it's absolutely not mandatory for a pull.
    The more damage the tank takes while dragging the mobs to their final destination, the less time I get to dps as a healer; which means that, if the dps are slacking off (which as of late seems to be the case in a lot of parties I've had), the more resources I have to dump to keep the tank upright, and the greater chances of me either completely running out of resources and causing a wipe or the tank running out of mitigations because of the extra damage they took. This extra damage causes extra stress on the healers, and using up said resources to keep you alive while you make your jog to your final destination because you're eating unnecessary damage is one less resource I have to keep you upright in the ginormous pull you just did.

    Sprint for the mitigation, sprint for your life.
    (8)
    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  2. #3742
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    Merrigan's Avatar
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    Merrigan Gilgard
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    Spriggan
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    The more damage the tank takes while dragging the mobs to their final destination, the less time I get to dps as a healer; which means that, if the dps are slacking off (which as of late seems to be the case in a lot of parties I've had), the more resources I have to dump to keep the tank upright, and the greater chances of me either completely running out of resources and causing a wipe or the tank running out of mitigations because of the extra damage they took. This extra damage causes extra stress on the healers, and using up said resources to keep you alive while you make your jog to your final destination because you're eating unnecessary damage is one less resource I have to keep you upright in the ginormous pull you just did.

    Sprint for the mitigation, sprint for your life.
    I play healer in 90% of the roulette content. There's no extra stress without sprinting during the pull, or it's minimal.

    Let me be clear: I'm not arguing against sprinting. Your argument is valid, even if I personally see almost no difference. I just don't agree with people who protest because a tank won't sprint. It's one of those attitudes that consists of pretending that a micro-optimisation during random content is of fundamental importance, when the gain is almost non-existent.

    When you agree to make content with a PF, you accept by extension that people won't necessarily go at the pace you would have liked. This applies to those who would like to contemplate every dandelion by the side of the road, as well as to those who would like everything to be done as quickly as possible (and I'm not talking about w2w here, but about those who demand that you zap all the mobs that can be zapped, that you have to sprint or I'll pull, etc etc). Hence the fact that I don't understand people who go and do a roulette with strangers, then act surprised because it doesn't go exactly at the pace they were expecting. There's no disrespect for the player's time here, just a lack of common sense about the type of content involved.
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  3. #3743
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    Sorimachi87's Avatar
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    Aoi Fukuhara
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Not particularly duty finder.. but my god solo heaven on high which i took up recently....
    Floor 54 just now with redmage. Single battle mob and i backflipped straight onto the hidden transformation trap, lost the fight because of that and on the same floor i already lost a rez pomander to a hard hitting aoe...

    I mean.. yeah its my fault... but... still.. *goes crying into a corner* ^^"
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  4. #3744
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorimachi87 View Post
    Not particularly duty finder.. but my god solo heaven on high which i took up recently....
    Floor 54 just now with redmage. Single battle mob and i backflipped straight onto the hidden transformation trap, lost the fight because of that and on the same floor i already lost a rez pomander to a hard hitting aoe...

    I mean.. yeah its my fault... but... still.. *goes crying into a corner* ^^"
    If it makes you feel better: someone got disconnected on floor 197 of PoTD due to the DDoS attacks, took a bit of a break and went back in to clear it out of sheer angry lalafell spite.

    Getting back to your previous floorset should be easier and faster, and provided you've picked up potsherds you can always exchange them for much-needed pots. It's only going to get tougher from there. If you've got warrior leveled that might make things a bit easier too.
    (4)
    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  5. #3745
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    Sorimachi87's Avatar
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    Aoi Fukuhara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    If it makes you feel better: someone got disconnected on floor 197 of PoTD due to the DDoS attacks, took a bit of a break and went back in to clear it out of sheer angry lalafell spite.

    Getting back to your previous floorset should be easier and faster, and provided you've picked up potsherds you can always exchange them for much-needed pots. It's only going to get tougher from there. If you've got warrior leveled that might make things a bit easier too.
    Thanks for the advice and hints. Loosing a run due to ddos attacks is far worse then loosing it on your own terms... wow...
    And no i havent leveled warrior. For me the job is a book with seven seals.
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  6. #3746
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    People are special. So you know Alexander normal? Both healers and a dps got cleaved and all I did was stand there, tanking.

    No mechanics require him facing a specific direction. If you're in front of THE BOSS, get behind him. Doubly so for ones that like to teleport. If he warps near a wall yeah I point him outwards. If he's in the middle then good lord people just get behind him lol. I cant face him any specific direction when he is in the middle if everyone stands in every direction. It's like sprouts on ramuh extreme all over again that insist on standing on the tank (me) and I'm not even moving.
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  7. #3747
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    So, you know most dungeon bosses die fast enough to only cast Radiant Finale as a bard once or twice, right? It has a 110 second CD, and bosses melt faster than that if everyone's doing their jobs?

    I had a run of the Lunar Subterrane today where I cast it three times on the first boss, five times on the second boss, and six on the third.

    Oh, and the second boss would be eight if I counted the first wipe. Because the healer decided that the sand traps didn't hurt that bad. Except they did.

    My brain hurts.
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  8. #3748
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    Dikatis's Avatar
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    Lleu Macnia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 100
    I got Nidhogg Ex in Mentor Roulette. I braced myself for pain but as long as the sprouts were open to learning mechanics and paying attention, I could bite the bullet and do it.

    Healers were good. But then there was my co-tank and the BLM. Co-tank decided, "Mechanics are for cars" and insta-pulled before anyone could explain any mechs. Predictably, he and the other sprouts died repeatedly because they didn't know what they were looking at. Finally got him to slow down and listen to mechanics. I ask them, "Do you understand the mechanics we just laid out?" The answer, "And so I just start blasting." BLM proceeds to stand in every single mechanic and doesn't even think to move when he's in front of the dragon with its claw raised. His DPS was also abysmal by the way.

    Then the co-tank got impatient and thought he was the next coming of Leeroy Jenkins and started insta-pulling again and provoking the boss toward the healers and DPS so I had to provoke it back.

    Needless to say, Vote Abandon was inevitable.
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  9. #3749
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    DonutSteel's Avatar
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    Ordo Bairon
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I sure do love either consistently being third place in frontlines, or actually having a close 2nd or 1st place only to be unceremoniously pushed into third place... at the last second. Five times in a row.

    :')
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  10. #3750
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    Burning Winter
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    Cerberus
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    Sage Lv 100

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