Another Bahamut? Why not Odin? (SMN 7.0 job action PLL feedback)

[HikariKurosawa]

Bahamut is kinda the ultimate most iconic summon and has very frequently had multiple forms. I think it is cool. Leviathan Ramuh or Shiva don't really have the same impact. No other summon really does.

[Raikai]

Bahamut is kinda the ultimate most iconic summon and has very frequently had multiple forms. I think it is cool. Leviathan Ramuh or Shiva don't really have the same impact. No other summon really does.

But we already have a Bahamut. At best this Solar Bahamut could be a trait upgrade for the old one.

They could've literally chosen anything else.

In fact, the gauge even resembles Odin's horse when not lit.

[HikariKurosawa]

But we already have a Bahamut. At best this Solar Bahamut could be a trait upgrade for the old one.

They could've literally chosen anything else.

In fact, the gauge even resembles Odin's horse when not lit.

and now we get another higher level of bahamut. FFVII has 3 different bahamut summons. It's cool.

[Ianmaru]

and now we get another higher level of bahamut. FFVII has 3 different bahamut summons. It's cool.

It's not the same. FFVII has 3 different bahamut ALONG with shiva ramuh levi & odin. If we get Solar Bahamut as the 2nd bahamut AFTER we've got Shiva Ramuh Levi & Odin, then I'd be hyped. But nah, we got the 2nd bahamut instead of what we've been asking for for 6 years (shiva ramuh levi), and I'm not happy about it in the slightest.

[HikariKurosawa]

It's not the same. FFVII has 3 different bahamut ALONG with shiva ramuh levi & odin. If we get Solar Bahamut as the 2nd bahamut AFTER we've got Shiva Ramuh Levi & Odin, then I'd be hyped. But nah, we got the 2nd bahamut instead of what we've been asking for for 6 years (shiva ramuh levi), and I'm not happy about it in the slightest.

You can never please everyone. Personally I have zero interest in shiva ramuh or leviathan as summons and would take solar bahamut over all 3 any day. I understand there is a demographic that wants shiva ramuh and leviathan, but it's not everyone. I would even take a third bahamut or a second phoenix over shiva ramuh and leviathan personally.

[Ianmaru]

You can never please everyone. Personally I have zero interest in shiva ramuh or leviathan as summons and would take solar bahamut over all 3 any day. I understand there is a demographic that wants shiva ramuh and leviathan, but it's not everyone. I would even take a third bahamut or a second phoenix over shiva ramuh and leviathan personally.

i understand theres a demographic that doesnt want shiva ramuh and leviathan, but it's not everyone. and simply by looking at the threads on the forum, both in English forum and Japanese forum, the demographic that wants to have shiva ramuh and leviathan is far bigger than the one that doesn't. yes you cant please everyone, but the least you can do is pleasing the obvious majority to minimize backlash.

[HikariKurosawa]

i understand theres a demographic that doesnt want shiva ramuh and leviathan, but it's not everyone. and simply by looking at the threads on the forum, both in English forum and Japanese forum, the demographic that wants to have shiva ramuh and leviathan is far bigger than the one that doesn't. yes you cant please everyone, but the least you can do is pleasing the obvious majority to minimize backlash.

What's your point? You think you should get what you want because you're throwing a fit on the forums with a few other people? This community is so entitled and unappreciative. I feel bad for the devs honestly. They do such great work and the english forums are so bitter and jaded.

[Raikai]

and now we get another higher level of bahamut. FFVII has 3 different bahamut summons. It's cool.

Yeah they do, but by that logic the Solar Bahamut should've been a trait upgrade to the regular Bahamut since those summons in FF7 are different, but upgrades. By the time you get the 3rd, you no longer will be using the 1st one.

[HikariKurosawa]

Yeah they do, but by that logic the Solar Bahamut should've been a trait upgrade to the regular Bahamut since those summons in FF7 are different, but upgrades. By the time you get the 3rd, you no longer will be using the 1st one.

Comparing ffvii summons to mmo rotations is apples to oranges. We'll start out with regular bahamut, do an eikon phase, get fired up with phoenix, do another eikon phase, and then we enter solar bahamut for the climax of the rotation. Then another eikon phase and the loop starts over with regular bahamut. It's more exciting this way. If it was just a trait upgrade, the job would play the same with newer animations and higher potency.

Personally I don't get the disappointment, but to each their own. Everyone wants different stuff and you can only get one outcome.

[Xeronia]

Comparing ffvii summons to mmo rotations is apples to oranges. We'll start out with regular bahamut, do an eikon phase, get fired up with phoenix, do another eikon phase, and then we enter solar bahamut for the climax of the rotation. Then another eikon phase and the loop starts over with regular bahamut. It's more exciting this way. If it was just a trait upgrade, the job would play the same with newer animations and higher potency.

Personally I don't get the disappointment, but to each their own. Everyone wants different stuff and you can only get one outcome.

My issue is the rotation we were told was Solar Bahamut->Bahamut->Solar Bahamut->Phoenix. I personally feel that is a bit too long and forcing Solar Bahamut in twice is an interesting pick for something acquired so late into the game.