SAM gaeshi change severely cripples rotational flexibility and ruins the job for me

[Naizuo]

Hey guys!

I am a Japanese player. How are you doing?

I am not good at English so I use a translator.
Please forgive me if my writing is not correct.

What do you think of the “Tsubame-gaeshi”
specification change that will be implemented
in the Dawn Trail this time?

What do you think about the change of the specification of
“Tsubame-gaeshi” which is going to be implemented in the Dawn Trail?
I think it will make the rotation less flexible.

I would say that this specification is fatal.
I think it is an event that should be avoided at all costs!

For this reason, it is very important for all of you to have a heated discussion!
There is currently a discussion going on in the Japanese forum!
Most of the opinions are against the change!

How about you?
Please let me know what is going on in the English-speaking world!

If the time goes on like this, this fatal change will be implemented,
and we will have to wait and see what will happen.
The flaw will be left until 8.0.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

Ever since 6.10 Samurai has been going downhill in terms of combat. Meikyo and Tsubame-gaeshi adjustment is one of the changes that makes the job less flexible, definitely. I don't understand why they say "try it out and give us feedback" and then every Live Letter broadcast they don't say anything about the feedback.

[AsiTsurugi]

Hey guys!

I am a Japanese player. How are you doing?

I am not good at English so I use a translator.
Please forgive me if my writing is not correct.

What do you think of the “Tsubame-gaeshi”
specification change that will be implemented
in the Dawn Trail this time?

What do you think about the change of the specification of
“Tsubame-gaeshi” which is going to be implemented in the Dawn Trail?
I think it will make the rotation less flexible.

I would say that this specification is fatal.
I think it is an event that should be avoided at all costs!

For this reason, it is very important for all of you to have a heated discussion!
There is currently a discussion going on in the Japanese forum!
Most of the opinions are against the change!

How about you?
Please let me know what is going on in the English-speaking world!

If the time goes on like this, this fatal change will be implemented,
and we will have to wait and see what will happen.
The flaw will be left until 8.0.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

Yes, almost everyone who plays or enjoys playing samurai in NA and EU share the same opinion as yourself: the changes to Meikyo Shishui and Tsubame-gaeshi are not good for the health of the class. There are some people who think their lobotomized "playstyle" is more important than anyone else's enjoyment (like the poster following your post), but the change is almost unanimously frowned upon, because it removes flexbility for both casual and high-end gameplay.

[HikariKurosawa]

Yes, almost everyone who plays or enjoys playing samurai in NA and EU share the same opinion as yourself: the changes to Meikyo Shishui and Tsubame-gaeshi are not good for the health of the class. There are some people who think their lobotomized "playstyle" is more important than anyone else's enjoyment (like the poster following your post), but the change is almost unanimously frowned upon, because it removes flexbility for both casual and high-end gameplay.

Almost everyone LOL. Nice made up statistic.

[Mogred]

Almost everyone LOL. Nice made up statistic.

While I acknowledge forum posters make up a very small percentage of the player base. It is not that hard to extrapolate that most Sams are against the change when you are the only person in here that is not against the change.

[Samurai_Daisuki]

I will omit the text because it is too long.
Please forgive me.

I really think you are right.
If we don't do something.
It will go from bad to worse!

I'm looking at the Japan Forum.
We need to be as specific and theoretical in our explanations as possible.
If there is an explanation with, for example, images in the explanation, it tends to reflect opinions.

Thank you for your response!

I will omit the text because it is too long.
Please forgive me.

Thanks for letting me know!!!!
I send you a very big thank you!!!!

In Japan, it is considered aesthetics not to express one's opinion.
It is not very controversial.
Please help us.

Please exchange many opinions for this purpose!
It will lead to the future!



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[red_fang]

I don't understand why they say "try it out and give us feedback" and then every Live Letter broadcast they don't say anything about the feedback.

To pretend like they're listening. Maybe in 8.0 we can finally get some job designers who give a damn instead of this lazy mess, but seasoned players could've told them how to solve this years ago if they actually did read feedback.

Also don't fall for this babytroll in here who can't really play Sam well at all trying to rile you all up, just ignore it.

[HikariKurosawa]

While I acknowledge forum posters make up a very small percentage of the player base. It is not that hard to extrapolate that most Sams are against the change when you are the only person in here that is not against the change.

It's impossible to extrapolate. You're trying to make meaning out of 6-10 people who care enough to complain on the forums.

[Pavise]

Now this is coming from a more casual FFXIV perspective, but also a hardcore pov from other games.

I like the proposed change and here's why, it's simplicity is the key in making it a more fluid gameplay experience putting more weight into Meikyo's Casts since any good player would've always kept it for each Tsubame anyway, this just makes the experience more fluid for those who might desync the two cds where they come off at a larger gap interval the longer the fight goes. This helps keep you focused on the fight instead of your hotbars.

The Casual player that doesn't frequent your class discord echo chambers will benefit a lot more from this.

TLDR: Good change, get out of your echo chambers.

[Sensui]

SAM main here. Before we jump off a cliff, let's see how the change is implemented and feels. So tired of the "sky is falling" before anything is even played. Forum trolls just want something to complain about.

[mallleable]

I don't know enough about SAM to determine how bad or not the changes are, but I think potentially reducing the cool down of Meikyo to like 40 seconds could allow it to retain its flexibility. I do have a possibly cursed hunch that Higanbana gets changed to be like Death's Design.