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  1. #41
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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
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    I already have to pay real money to keep my house and you want me to pay gil per month for it too? I'm not interested in paying 2 virtual mortgages.
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  2. #42
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    I can’t believe op compared what is an in game token to real world money that is needed to fill essential needs…

    I find that atm gils are well balanced and the cap is decent. Some people just want to play the story and raid. A new player who starts today and is interested in raiding will likely need the help of friends to get the new DT crafted sets, food and pots. To even get there in time for the first raids they will also have to play every day. Make it more difficult to earn gil and it will only encourage rmt. Most people have limited time to play games.

    Oh and op doesn’t have to find 300 ppl to donate 1 million at a time. If it’s so worthless, buy the rarer mounts at about 50mils each, give out 6 of them to random sprouts and the 300m will be gone in less than 5 minutes lol they can then keep the mount or sell it

    Instead of complaining, Op should count themselves lucky they have enough gils to buy the next rare thing as soon as it’s added to a vendor or hits the MB.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 05-21-2024 at 11:04 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmarrIrenesch View Post
    "This in-game currency is worthless, I do absolutely nothing with it."
    "Then give it away to someone."
    "Don't be stupid, do you know how much it is worth?!"
    "I have a lot of gil and nothing to spend it on so it feels worthless. I want it to be worth something."
    "Give it to me for free then."
    "No, I want it to be worth something."

    No logical inconsistency. You're just reading OP in bad faith for Twitter Dunk Points.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    "I have a lot of gil and nothing to spend it on so it feels worthless. I want it to be worth something."
    "Give it to me for free then."
    "No, I want it to be worth something."

    No logical inconsistency. You're just reading OP in bad faith for Twitter Dunk Points.
    Not really people are pointing out how op is saying how gil is worthless then back peddling saying it's worth something after people pointed out how their ideas will cause hyperinflation. And the people asking for gil are only saying that considering they made claims gil was worthless and if it was worthless then why not hand out gil only for them to say it's worth too much in value irl and in game. I don't think anyone was serious about asking for gil either and only making a point that the op made of it being "so worthless".
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    Last edited by Nebelheim; 05-21-2024 at 11:54 AM.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    Not really people are pointing out how op is saying how gil is worthless then back peddling saying it's worth something after people pointed out how their ideas will cause hyperinflation. And the people asking for gil are only saying that considering they made claims gil was worthless and if it was worthless then why not hand out gil only for them to say it's worth too much in value irl and in game. I don't think anyone was serious about asking for gil either and only making a point that the op made of it being "so worthless".
    The only place OP fucked up was using hyperbole in the title, because there have been people who reply after reading only the title since the internet's infancy. The actual body of the post supports my interpretation.

    Inflation is caused when more money is added into a system than is taken back out, and that's exactly what happens in FF14 because the new money being created (e.g. from daily roulettes) far outpaces the small expenses like repairs, market taxes, and teleports.

    OP is suggesting adding more trade goods people will want to buy, which is a mildly deflationary measure because the marketboard will extract additional taxes as players trade them -- though I assume he wants them added so he can enjoy spending his money on things he feels are 'worthwhile' rather than because he's ideologically committed to deflation.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetch View Post
    The only place OP fucked up was using hyperbole in the title, because there have been people who reply after reading only the title since the internet's infancy. The actual body of the post supports my interpretation.

    Inflation is caused when more money is added into a system than is taken back out, and that's exactly what happens in FF14 because the new money being created (e.g. from daily roulettes) far outpaces the small expenses like repairs, market taxes, and teleports.

    OP is suggesting adding more trade goods people will want to buy, which is a mildly deflationary measure because the marketboard will extract additional taxes as players trade them -- though I assume he wants them added so he can enjoy spending his money on things he feels are 'worthwhile' rather than because he's ideologically committed to deflation.
    There isn't inflation, at least not noticeable save on very rare items from content from past expansions that pretty much nobody does. The cap on gils as well as events when you can get rare stuff for little efforts (flood the market with items that were previously rare) takes care of that. Heck my collection of fats cats have gone down from 600k to 30k each...we saw it for other items - the Island and the Seacloth was brutal - and we're about to see the same thing with the Gabriel mount.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 05-21-2024 at 04:27 PM.

  7. #47
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    We need a gil cap mount and it better be ugly
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  8. #48
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    300mil gil huh… gil is worthless huh…
    You wanna donate to me? x)
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    I already have to pay real money to keep my house and you want me to pay gil per month for it too? I'm not interested in paying 2 virtual mortgages.
    You are already doing it. If you do not pay your sub you will lose your in Game House at some point.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by missTori View Post
    You know what else is worthless? Me
    You are not worthless by any stretch. Please know that you are a valued member of the community.
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