Keiji Inafune talks about Japanese Games: how it relates to XIV

[Cendres]

I was under the impression it wa sa Fallout MMO, since they just spend years in litigation and millions of dollars in order to get the rights from interplay to do so.

We don't know which MMO they are making so it's anyone's guess, but they do want the entire IP of Fallout to themselves since Interplay is in breach of their agreement with Bethesda and have failed to produce an MMO in the time they had agreed to. It's a good guess that the reason Beth is fighting so hard is to make the MMO themselves but we don't know for sure.

Edit: I'm behind on news, Bethesda do now own the rights to Fallout Online...

[Fear]

We don't know which MMO they are making so it's anyone's guess, but they do want the entire IP of Fallout to themselves since Interplay is in breach of their agreement with Bethesda and have failed to produce an MMO in the time they had agreed to. It's a good guess that the reason Beth is fighting so hard is to make the MMO themselves but we don't know for sure.

Edit: I'm behind on news, Bethesda do now own the rights to Fallout Online...

From what I heard Interplay is still making the Fallout MMO but because they lost the law suit they've had to name it something different so it'll basicly be a Fallout MMO just not called it to avoid further problems.

And Beth's parent company has setup a MMO division and a TES MMO division

[weeble]

yeah they won the lawsuit ...they are actually getting total and full rights of fallout at some point ..even the older 2. i do hope they still plan on making a mmo i was looking forward to it. i probably had 800hrs of game play in between fallout3 and new vegas. very fun games. then this week i played rage thinking it would be just as awesome and it wasn't. i loved the game play but it was missing the content fallout had and the story was weak. i beat it on hardest mode in 20hrs and tossed it back into the mail to gamefly><

don't get me started on ff13-2 it was the biggest disapointment in all ff games i think, it was a 60hr of looking around for invisible stupid items and almost no real bosses or fights. if it wasn't for gamefly i would never play another one of there games again.

personally i like games that take long time to beat, 60-100hrs is the very least any game that cost 70bucks to buy should take to play threw. and with out it making u feel like your wasting your time with filler and crap that isn't enjoyable like slot machines and card games that take nothing but spamming a button while u watch tv . . .

both jp and western games have there place, as for mmo's come into play ..ffxi spoiled me, i personally can't play western mmo's for more then a year b4 i want to quit and the direction ffxiv is going is still weary to me but it could be the very last mmo i play cause i just can't stand this facebook casual nonsense mmo's they trying to put out.

[weeble]

http://www.falloutwiki.com/Wasteland_2
this game just got over 2milion from donations from the site kickstarter.com and is going into production.

i made a thread while ago but it got no replies really about how SE should make a kickstarter for a new ffxi-2 ..if that is what it would take to show them that they have supporters for such a mmo.

[fusional]

We shouldn't shy away from being critical about something we feel strongly for (so long as it's constructive). That's what these forums are for. It can't all be hugs and kisses here.

the problem is- most of the criticism in this forum is the opposite of constructive, and generally boils down to unfounded senses of entitlement and wanting the game to cater only to their preferences, without any care for any other preferences.

so, if the devs actually listen to most of the crying in the forums, we're actually just leading them in the wrong direction so they can waste more energy unnecessarily.

i just hope there are people in the development process who actually play the game enough to be able to pick out the fair criticisms from the stupid entitled crying.

[Peptaru]

the problem is- most of the criticism in this forum is the opposite of constructive, and generally boils down to unfounded senses of entitlement and wanting the game to cater only to their preferences, without any care for any other preferences.

so, if the devs actually listen to most of the crying in the forums, we're actually just leading them in the wrong direction so they can waste more energy unnecessarily.

i just hope there are people in the development process who actually play the game enough to be able to pick out the fair criticisms from the stupid entitled crying.

Should I link all the posts where you only want what you prefer and everyone else's ideas suck? I'm also failing to see how your post (or mine now) is/are at all constructive. What each person feels strongly about is up to nobody but that person. That person is in turn criticized and it goes on and on. As to "hoping" there are people who choose fair criticism vs. crying... that is subjective, too. At least they get paid for it i suppose...

[Riaayo]

Thanks for this, OP. Couldn't agree more.

[fusional]

Should I link all the posts where you only want what you prefer and everyone else's ideas suck?

go for it. because i've been a pretty vocal advocate of the game catering to all demographics- and pointing out by proxy that it currently caters to all demographics BUT mine.

my point has been simple all along. keep solo and casual content. keep low man semi-difficult instanced content. add more of it. but also add more difficult content and large-scale raid content as well, as the game currently lacks either.

in the meantime all you can do is conjure up straw men, run off on irrational tangents about one or two buzzwords in my posts (while completely ignoring everything else i say), and do your best to quote me out of context to support your feeble position. so have fun with that, i guess?

[Denmo]

i just hope there are people in the development process who actually play the game enough to be able to pick out the fair criticisms from the stupid entitled crying.

That's why we have Bayohne and Co.

And besides that, it's healthy to be disagreed with. Even if you make flops of topics that are unpopular, it still proves a point. Like my troll topic the other day. Was a fun running gag, but it served a purpose. Reinforced the idea that everyone wants to keep their levels when 2.0 comes out.

And I got a few laughs out of it by revealing all the forum-goers that can't take a joke~


We should be thankful we have forums at all~

[Ramsey]

There was a Canadian guy who appeared in a documentary film and did a Q&A afterwards. And a Japanese person asked what he thought of Japanese games, and he said he thought they sucked. That’s what’s necessary.

Oh man, I was there for this, it was a cringe-worthy moment if ever there was one..

This was at the screening of Indie Game the Movie at GDC this year. The "Canadian guy" was Phil Fish (lol) creator of Fez. He's not really known for his subtlety, but it wasn't just him. The entire panel basically took a giant steaming dump on Japanese games, while the guy stood there half-understanding their reply.

I didn't know Infaune-san was there, but I'm glad he was I suppose, and that he felt it was necessary criticism. It makes me feel better, because I was cringing for a good 20 minutes afterwards.