SEA players and resident of US/EU, how are you paying subs right now after the change

[NanaWiloh]

SE: We will fix the payment system. Please look forward too it.

[Kura]

This is the only response you will get from support.

https://imgur.com/Qx0tPtQ

Its bogus. It will not fix /anything/ at all.

Saaaame, almost word for word short of the intro. (https://imgur.com/a/PYAh0Dp) I love how the solution is 'do these standard IT troubleshooting things (with the addition of using Microsoft Edge. I'm not putting that on my system to try this) and if that doesn't work too bad, read this post about the payment change and try a different form of payment'.

I am able to get it to work with AmazonPay (registered to the same Visa Debit card that THEIR system is incapable of taking apparently). What a thing to mess up and probably cost them subscriptions going into the expansion. /shrug

[NanaWiloh]

Saaaame, almost word for word short of the intro. (https://imgur.com/a/PYAh0Dp) I love how the solution is 'do these standard IT troubleshooting things (with the addition of using Microsoft Edge. I'm not putting that on my system to try this) and if that doesn't work too bad, read this post about the payment change and try a different form of payment'.

I am able to get it to work with AmazonPay (registered to the same Visa Debit card that THEIR system is incapable of taking apparently). What a thing to mess up and probably cost them subscriptions going into the expansion. /shrug

If they fix it before dt or even acknowlede issue publicly given how they handle a similar problem in the past will be a miracle.

[RhaesDaenys]

If they fix it before dt or even acknowlede issue publicly given how they handle a similar problem in the past will be a miracle.

This is what I've been reading everywhere. That they likely won't fix it for months or years.

[Mika_Zahard]

I was hoping as well, but some players tried it and it asked for address verification, which is weird. This also means mogstation and other services is no longer possible.

Until you're able to verify your address, the system will keep bugging you till you're able to do so.

[Rehayem]

In this case, General Discussion is a fine.

From a Japanese point of view, any translator will look strange, but it is still recommended to use DeepL because of its good accuracy.
However, FF14 words need to be spelt out on their own by looking at the official FF14 page. For example, even if you translate glamour using Google or deepl, It will never be translated into Japanese as it is a completely different word in Japanese.

People on Japanese forums don't like posts from foreign countries very much. (To put it mildly.)
Not because of anything unpleasant in the forums, but because they don't have a very good impression in game.

I do find it very difficult for developers to recognise problems that are only happening in regions outside Japan.
The function to remove players from the house, which was announced at the recent PLL, was also something that was much requested in Japan forum last year.
I think it doesn't make sense to split the forum by region and language at this time

I've seen that thread regarding the benchmark graphics update and how one of our fellow forum posters went there and used machine translation to post in Japanese. A response was rather harsh with the mentality of "if they can't speak Japanese then they can't be here!!!" even though it was posted with broken Japanese. In a way it becomes hypocritical, because in the future, that same person may need to use Google/DeepL to translate to English, but no one's going to judge them for that. We in the West have multiple languages and many speak more than one, so broken English will be fine because it will still be understood.

On the bright side, I did see quite a lot defend the situation and said it's perfectly fine as long as it's understood. Perhaps that one angry person has never spoken to a foreigner before? Or a foreigner trying to learn Japanese? Who knows.

Does your high ping mean this?
https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a451d5a8daa66fhttps://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a451d5a8daa66f

I believe this is the post, yes. The issue still happened a lot last year, however thankfully there was an actual response from SE. Now, when I read it the first time, I've seen 2 particular things in that statement that bothered me a lot.

1. "Since around the release of Patch 6.1, we have been receiving reports from players in Japan and other parts of the world stating that they have been experiencing network-related issues, such as a few seconds of network loss, or lag."

Okay, it starts good, it mentions "other parts of the world", so I assumed Yoshida knows issue isn't localized to Japan. And then it goes:

2. Based on the information that most of the recent reports are specifically coming from Japan, while others are playing without issue, the network-related issues may be due to the network routing. In the past month, some of the internet service providers (ISP) in Japan have been reporting issues due to high network concentration or trouble related to construction.

Emphasis mine. NA/EU players have been complaining about the lag for months, yet it had to have very small few JP playerbase mention this in order for Yoshida make this Lodestone post. This is why West is very well aware Yoshida plays favorites and how SE does indeed ignore half its playerbase from half the globe because "JP's fine lol"

That's why some of us know that posting in JP forums will get SE's attention. I leave you with this.



We may be delusional, but sometimes it's worth the climb while such people get treated like kings.

[rawker]

sometimes, these app translators, do not faitfully translate the intent properly. So take it with a grain of salt.

It might say delusional but it may actually be something along the lines of people coming from NA an EU airing their concerns to JP in hopes to be heard.

[Rehayem]

sometimes, these app translators, do not faitfully translate the intent properly. So take it with a grain of salt.

It might say delusional but it may actually be something along the lines of people coming from NA an EU airing their concerns to JP in hopes to be heard.

Certainly, and it's an add-on for firefox that uses Google to translate the text, so it's never ever going to be accurate. It does however, give me an idea what's the text talking about. It's better than nothing I guess.

[rawker]

I agree. The only issue i encounter when i attempt to post over the JP forum is that I have to put in the effort to make my statements as formal as possible, with no slang/sarcasm/idioms, so i have a better chance of getting the point across without the translations messing it up.

[Minali]

It would be cool if someone who wouldn't need machine translation could write into the Japanese forum on behalf of the many many players in SEA, SA and other countries with this issue...? Considering some people here seem to be well versed in the culture of the Japanese part of this forum, I'm sure at least one or two could speak up in Japanese the usual way instead of leaving the players affected struggeling alone and getting belittled or attacked over there if they utilize the only means they have at their disposal. (= Google translate/Deepl) Just saying.