Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[Supersnow845]

To be fair, of the 4 lv89 healer sets, SCH has got to be the closest thing that doesn't make my highlander look feminine.. if only there's a way to cut off those ribbons.

Also, if they stuck up with ARR/HW SMN, they could have simply upgraded Enkindle via trait to tranform the egis to its primal forms to do their signature moves then dissipates and puts the summon egi in a lengthy cooldown. And when all egis are used up, Carbuncle is the "filler" pet.

Also the dreadwyrm trance could have also been upgraded to summon Bahamut. Plus make the summoning have requiments other than it off cooldown.

Those ribbons on the back of the 89 sett are literally the only downside to what’s otherwise a really good “commander coat”

No idea why they thought to include them

[ASkellington]

It really isn't hard to make a more masculine/gender neutral healer artifact set.

Its not as if they don't know how.

AST is a perfect example until Shb:

HW



SB



Hell even SCH looks fairly gender neutral if you replace all of the skirts on female with pants.

They just see healer as the stereotypical women's role and thus design it that way.

...Y'know DESPITE how CNJ's mentor is male (E-Sumi Yan).

Or SCH's (both Alka Zolka and Suito Curito).

Or even AST's (Jannequinard and Kyokuho).

[ty_taurus]

...Y'know DESPITE how CNJ's mentor is male (E-Sumi Yan).

Or SCH's (both Alka Zolka and Suito Curito).

Or even AST's (Jannequinard and Kyokuho).

Or how the only scions that heal are men: Alphinaud, Urianger, and G'raha. After seeing the DPS side, Y'shtola only agrees to heal if there are literally no other candidates who can. And does so by performing her Sorceress/Black Mage rotation anyway.

[ASkellington]

Or how the only scions that heal are men: Alphinaud, Urianger, and G'raha. After seeing the DPS side, Y'shtola only agrees to heal if there are literally no other candidates who can. And does so by performing her Sorceress/Black Mage rotation anyway.

Yeah I don't get it. I don't have an issue with it since my WoL is supposed to be a more effeminate man... but he's still A MAN. I have the option to slap on a robe and call it a dress (with some exceptions that I want but aren't gonna happen because of aformentioned gender differences in gear). I'd like for others who want more masculine healer clothing to have their options to.


...SO YoshiP allow us to glam regardless of class when?

[Aravell]

Its not as if they don't know how.

That's the weird part. They've done so well to fit the job gear designs to male and female up until SB.

Between lacking job gear designs and the beginning of job simplifications, it really does seem like ShB onwards is receiving much less attention despite bringing in more money than before.

They've just been throwing bland robe after bland robe at the healers recently. I think the only reason SCH gets something passable for male characters is because they're military-based.

[ASkellington]

That's the weird part. They've done so well to fit the job gear designs to male and female up until SB.

Between lacking job gear designs and the beginning of job simplifications, it really does seem like ShB onwards is receiving much less attention despite bringing in more money than before.

They've just been throwing bland robe after bland robe at the healers recently. I think the only reason SCH gets something passable for male characters is because they're military-based.

If I were to guess... and this is me giving the benefit of the doubt...

POSSIBLY they don't want to make gendered gear only for the community to ask for the gear to be unlocked because coding headache. Take the Neo-Ishgardian one for instance. I know people with female characters who want the male look and I personally want the female one myself. I don't see either becoming a lv1 glam option. Ever.

Doesn't explain why they just don't make more gender neutral stuff but I can see the above issue being a reason for why all the sets are more... uniform across sexes. Otherwise they'd have to do what they did with the Valentoine's 2023 set and make two. For ARMOR. I really don't see that going over well either.

[ty_taurus]

I find it kind of annoying in general that there's no experimentation with artifact gear. Every expansion, the theme is the same. "Traditional." And like, we already have multiple years worth of Traditional artifact gear. Why not be more ambitious with it. I like the new Summoner gear for DT because it actually looks like it's regionally inspired to some degree, but why don't we see more of that? Or if not regionally inspired, inspired by a particular final fantasy. Imagine how epic it would've been if Shadowbringers gave us artifact gear inspired by FF8: 90s Contemporary sets. Sure, not everyone would like them, but so what? You'd do a different theme for Endwalker, and the old sets aren't magically being deleted.

I would love to see a future expansion give us some 'jobs if they were in Spira' artifact armor, taking inspiration from the cast of FFX and the FFX-2 Dresspheres. It'd be so fun and different. Way more exciting to me than Classic 5.0.

[Supersnow845]

Blatantly gender biased AF gear contributes but it’s not the entirety of the problem I have with healers never feeling like the main character

Now I’m not going to explicitly go into “gender stereotypes” but it’s hard to ignore that WHM feels excessively feminine (I’m not saying that heroes can’t be female just that my WOL is male; a gay male; but male nonetheless) but the biggest problem is just that our attacks feel so unimpactful and we come off as a joke

Like a walk into this important battle with a world ending threat and I proceed to glare at the boss for 20 minutes which hit like wet farts while the tanks and the DPS are throwing midares and blade combos and fire 4’s at the same boss, even our drawn weapon stance feels like a bad joke (SGE Is actually fine on this front)

The aesthetic design and the impact of the modern healer kits doesn’t make you feel like you are the WOL; the strongest person on the three great continents and arguably the entire planet of etheryis

[ASkellington]

I find it kind of annoying in general that there's no experimentation with artifact gear. Every expansion, the theme is the same. "Traditional." And like, we already have multiple years worth of Traditional artifact gear. Why not be more ambitious with it. I like the new Summoner gear for DT because it actually looks like it's regionally inspired to some degree, but why don't we see more of that? Or if not regionally inspired, inspired by a particular final fantasy. Imagine how epic it would've been if Shadowbringers gave us artifact gear inspired by FF8: 90s Contemporary sets. Sure, not everyone would like them, but so what? You'd do a different theme for Endwalker, and the old sets aren't magically being deleted.

I would love to see a future expansion give us some 'jobs if they were in Spira' artifact armor, taking inspiration from the cast of FFX and the FFX-2 Dresspheres. It'd be so fun and different. Way more exciting to me than Classic 5.0.

/shrug I'm pretty satisfied with AST's artifact gear aside from EW's and what we're supposed to be getting in DT.

HW's, SB's, and Shb's all have a theme yet still look different enough. EW's top is fine... and so are the bellbottom bottoms I guess, but the headdress is very similar to SB's (which Shb also had). I don't get why it has to be BLACK. The night sky can look dark blue too.

WHM's need serious work though lmao. The peak design was ARR (because its the iconic gear). And SCH... WHY do they need to look like a graduate student? They're supposed to be a militant tactician right? You couldn't change it up to give them some sort of commanding officer's uniform?

[ASkellington]

Blatantly gender biased AF gear contributes but it’s not the entirety of the problem I have with healers never feeling like the main character

Now I’m not going to explicitly go into “gender stereotypes” but it’s hard to ignore that WHM feels excessively feminine (I’m not saying that heroes can’t be female just that my WOL is male; a gay male; but male nonetheless) but the biggest problem is just that our attacks feel so unimpactful and we come off as a joke

Like a walk into this important battle with a world ending threat and I proceed to glare at the boss for 20 minutes which hit like wet farts while the tanks and the DPS are throwing midares and blade combos and fire 4’s at the same boss, even our drawn weapon stance feels like a bad joke (SGE Is actually fine on this front)

The aesthetic design and the impact of the modern healer kits doesn’t make you feel like you are the WOL; the strongest person on the three great continents and arguably the entire planet of etheryis

The only way I'll ever see AST feeling like a WoL is if we draw cards to do damage. Like, Balance is a fire attack, Ewer Drowns the target in water (etc).

WHM and SCH I'll agree can certainly look more like a WoL or just a main character in general if you gave them more impactful looking abilities. WHM especially.

Even if we don't get our elemental attacks back, pretty sure you can make Light aspected abilities look frightening and a bit less frilly.