Easiest solution to the gil-farm/FC-house hoarding situation

[Kaurhz]

Detach the workshop from housing -- Though this would result in numerous other problems that absolutely would need to be addressed, e.g., reward distribution, reward amount, and the minimum needed entry point. These are all issues which can quickly creep up with detachment from housing.

Remove the FC credit reward from Grand Company expert deliveries, and rework the amount of credit awarded across the board. It's pretty broken generally speaking right now. I would be down for reward FC credits strictly for FC activity, but the reality of FCs is that they are the most underutilized feature, and realistically hasn't had any significant update to it since OG Diadem where you either needed to queue by company workshop or via The Pillars in Foundation. If they add actual activities which would absolutely involve FC, then I would be down for this solution, but there isn't. Not enough to justify locking rewards exclusively behind that.

Increase the cost of Flight Credit and Dive Credit, significantly, 25K, IMO at the least.

Taking multi-plot ownership away from people doesn't solve the underlying issue with housing, all it does is delay the inevitability of the issue occurring again in a week or 3. Not to mention you unironically end up hurting those that probably use housing in its best from -- Those that RP, do venues, do events, etc., -- Than what you do trying to stick it to those on submarines.

[LianaThorne]

Detach the workshop from housing -- Though this would result in numerous other problems that absolutely would need to be addressed, e.g., reward distribution, reward amount, and the minimum needed entry point. These are all issues which can quickly creep up with detachment from housing.

Remove the FC credit reward from Grand Company expert deliveries, and rework the amount of credit awarded across the board. It's pretty broken generally speaking right now. I would be down for reward FC credits strictly for FC activity, but the reality of FCs is that they are the most underutilized feature, and realistically hasn't had any significant update to it since OG Diadem where you either needed to queue by company workshop or via The Pillars in Foundation. If they add actual activities which would absolutely involve FC, then I would be down for this solution, but there isn't. Not enough to justify locking rewards exclusively behind that.

Increase the cost of Flight Credit and Dive Credit, significantly, 25K, IMO at the least.

Taking multi-plot ownership away from people doesn't solve the underlying issue with housing, all it does is delay the inevitability of the issue occurring again in a week or 3. Not to mention you unironically end up hurting those that probably use housing in its best from -- Those that RP, do venues, do events, etc., -- Than what you do trying to stick it to those on submarines.

I'm on board with a credit revamp but chokeholding it to the point that even legit FCs hardly make any real progress is something that should be avoided as well. Since Expert Delivery makes up a large portion of most peoples source of credit income, what would be the new alternative source to provide...maybe not as much but still be reliable for realistic progress?

[Kaurhz]

I'm on board with a credit revamp but chokeholding it to the point that even legit FCs hardly make any real progress is something that should be avoided as well. Since Expert Delivery makes up a large portion of most peoples source of credit income, what would be the new alternative source to provide...maybe not as much but still be reliable for realistic progress?

Realistic progress? Virtually every activity in the game provides some form of credits, and it doesn't necessarily need to be about the sources of credit income, as credit should need to be something gained over a period of time. I personally maintain that if an FC is active then the amount of company credits will typically outweigh their expense of company credits anyway, to the point where you probably won't actually notice.

The idea that there needs to be a 'new' primary source for company credit farming -- All this is doing is putting the problem from one place to another. It shouldn't be something wherein you pick an activity and farm it. If you're adamant on this affecting legit FCs, then the only thing that ultimately needs to change is that the Aetherial Wheel Stands should not be tied to housing -- Even if an alternate exists in company credits. -- But to continue... Detach Atherial Wheel Stands from housing, have each city state have a small workshop of sorts that people can visit which contains all the necessities. Then decrease the charge time of company buffs across the board, so that people can get these more self sufficiently..

[LianaThorne]

Realistic progress? Virtually every activity in the game provides some form of credits, and it doesn't necessarily need to be about the sources of credit income, as credit should need to be something gained over a period of time. I personally maintain that if an FC is active then the amount of company credits will typically outweigh their expense of company credits anyway, to the point where you probably won't actually notice.

The idea that there needs to be a 'new' primary source for company credit farming -- All this is doing is putting the problem from one place to another. It shouldn't be something wherein you pick an activity and farm it. If you're adamant on this affecting legit FCs, then the only thing that ultimately needs to change is that the Aetherial Wheel Stands should not be tied to housing -- Even if an alternate exists in company credits. -- But to continue... Detach Atherial Wheel Stands from housing, have each city state have a small workshop of sorts that people can visit which contains all the necessities. Then decrease the charge time of company buffs across the board, so that people can get these more self sufficiently..

Yes, realistic progress since Expert Delivery currently helps smaller FCs achieve larger gains that they couldn't in comparison to large hundred person+ FCs with people on round the clock.

If the only people who can make realistic progress with credits are large FCs then that screws out:
- Friend group FCs
- Venue FCs
- Static FCs
- Legitimate new FCs

So yes, in my opinion, there should be a way for those to be able to keep pace.

[Reinha]

Realistic progress? Virtually every activity in the game provides some form of credits, and it doesn't necessarily need to be about the sources of credit income, as credit should need to be something gained over a period of time. I personally maintain that if an FC is active then the amount of company credits will typically outweigh their expense of company credits anyway, to the point where you probably won't actually notice.

Why would credit acquisition need to be nerfed in the first place? There is no reason to change how active fcs need to be. Credits have uses that have nothing to do with submarines. If the devs wanted to nerf submarine gil making all they would have to do is reduce salvage value to 1% of its current value.