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    Quote Originally Posted by CidHeiral View Post
    Which isn't what I said at all.

    You said:



    Then I said they clearly do take feedback since they've made changes based on it.



    Whether they are changes you want or not is irrelevant. You original post was about them ignoring feedback entirely, not ignoring specific feedback.
    Yes and my point stands

    Saying they take feedback about useless minor things as evidence they do take feedback when they blatantly ignore feedback about how the game actually works is disingenuous

    Since ShB they have functionally accepted no feedback regarding any major change to any major system despite asking for our feedback. Are we supposed to only offer feedback on minor things nobody cares about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yes and my point stands

    Saying they take feedback about useless minor things as evidence they do take feedback when they blatantly ignore feedback about how the game actually works is disingenuous

    Since ShB they have functionally accepted no feedback regarding any major change to any major system despite asking for our feedback. Are we supposed to only offer feedback on minor things nobody cares about
    Off the top of my head didn't they overhaul PvP, add a deep dungeon, and change the variant rewards based on player feedback? If nobody cares about those things why were there so many threads complaining about them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yes and my point stands

    Saying they take feedback about useless minor things as evidence they do take feedback when they blatantly ignore feedback about how the game actually works is disingenuous

    Since ShB they have functionally accepted no feedback regarding any major change to any major system despite asking for our feedback. Are we supposed to only offer feedback on minor things nobody cares about
    Your definition of useless is everything that isn't immediately addressing healer griping, which as a non-healer main I consider emminently more useless than most of the examples of feedback that people bring up to you when you say stuff like this.

    Edit: They should address it though because it's not like I really disagree. For my money, I think healers are more boring now than they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Your definition of useless is everything that isn't immediately addressing healer griping, which as a non-healer main I consider emminently more useless than most of the examples of feedback that people bring up to you when you say stuff like this.

    Edit: They should address it though because it's not like I really disagree. For my money, I think healers are more boring now than they were.
    There is a lot more complaints than healers but also you know a whole third of the trinity being completely useless isn’t exactly a minor complaint

    You bought up housing a few comments ago, why do we still not have instances housing (apartments don’t count because they lack critical features), why can they never seem to remotely balance the tanks, why will they still give us no feedback on why they decided to delete Kaiten, why do they wait till jobs are literally getting locked out of PF before they make changes we pointed out weeks before the jobs even got released (WHM and MCH), why do they still refuse to do anything for people with high ping despite it being easily accessible. Why did they not change course on the design of myths after aglaia got negative feedback for being too easy and not feeling like an alliance raid, why will they still not give viera or Hrothgar hats. Why will they still not split au ra horns from their face or miqote clan markings from their face. Why have they forced a double melee dominance when nobody asked for it. Why do they keep doubling and tripling down on body checks in savage. Why did they make criterion savage and ultimate light when people were begging for midcore content, why did they double down on EO basically being designed as a solo challenge when that was HOH’s biggest criticism

    The list of ignored feedback is long and varied, I’m a healer main so a lot of my energy goes into discussing healers but it isn’t the remote totality of my problems with the game, and all of these points have had multiple threads on them and they get ignored
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