Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Cincierta]

So I continue to make terrible decisions on my vacation. I also want to make a point that WAR is not a hard tank to master, but apparently people find using the most basic of things on tanks to be SuPeR ExTrEmE.

I needed tomestones on an alt because more 90s, so I queued up for 50/60 roulette. I get a 3m in prog and what do you know? It's everyone's favorite Ala Mhigo dungeon! Apparently the healer had bailed at the start.

Mind you, I'm on sch. Had a DRG DNC and WAR for the rest of the party. Everyone knows WAR's RI is quite busted in self-sustain department, unless the warrior is extremely lazy. Well, I got an extremely lazy warrior of a tank.

How lazy? I asked them to large pull, they would only singluar pull, hit Rampart....and that was pretty much it. No Reprisal, no Vengeance, no Holmgang, no Raw Intuition, no Arm's Length, nothing. Except make themselves into a helicopter.

And since they're wearing the lvl 70 warrior artifact gear, they become rather squishy despite my MEATY SHIELDS. We manage to get to the first boss and clear it with some trouble (dps having some issues with basic rotations, but that's fixable with advice...right?)

Next area after the first boss comes the two tankbuster mobs. The warrior in question only pops Rampart, nothing else, and proceeds to go down faster than me binging on a case of soda after a stressful day at work. I try to sustain the other two dps after failing to get a raise on the tank out but the tankbuster mobs make short work out of the rest of us.

First picture is after the first wipe. Raw Intuition should be one of the biggest and quickest cooldowns a WAR should be using, along with Holmgang and the rest of them. You're level 76, you should know about your tank job's invuln and mitigation at this point. After the question and saying I'd be appreciative if they'd use them, they started to use them!

When they were completely unnecessary.

We get through the second boss with some trouble again (I chalk it up to the DRG not giving the Eye to the DNC), and the hallway after the second boss proves to be yet another repeat of the first hallway after the first boss. The war cannot seemingly wrap their tiny Miqo'te brain around how to unga-bunga properly and they eat dirt again, with my Swiftcast having been used earlier to give them another meaty shield. So I end up spending more mp on sustaining myself and the other sole dps that lived (DNC had gotten womped fast) and the DRG only lived due to Second Wind + fairy usage. The tank remained on the floor waiting for the raise when it would've been smarter to simply respawn like the DNC did.

If I had gone WHM, it probably wouldn't have made a difference anyway.

So we clear our way to the final boss, and of course Zenos is looking disapprovingly at us due to not having such T H I C C glamour and booty as he, and though it was a mighty battle, our Whomp and Stomp came out on top. We roll for loot and I notice the Miqo'te is on the floor playing dead.

I ask her if she wanted another tip on War. Apparently this offended her lack of unga-bunga self and she replied with a deadpan 'Nah' before sprinting out of the exit. She was in clear need of help on how to Unga-Bunga, but the way she handled herself the entire dungeon made me realize that she was probably one of the laziest warriors I've come across this patch lull.

If the warrior in question comes here and recognizes themselves in this story, I hope you step in dog poop and then on Legos. Please read your tooltips and stop being incredibly lazy. Go with Trusts if you're going to have that sort of cattitude toward your fellow players.

[Nononu]

yes, msq content is still faceroll. that said, if you're going to silently sit in all of livia's aoes - i don't know why, to test me as a healer? because i'm a lalafell? i expect both at this point, and i don't play either of those games; i'm not stupid either, i suspected something was up when you tilted yourself TOWARDS thermobaric strike on the second boss, the proximity aoe one, not that it does any damage even if you're standing on it i think, but still made me 눈_눈 - i'm going to let you die and let the drg tank for a minute, and i'm not going to feel bad about it.

i still keep finding brds that don't dot on mobs. is this just not done anymore? i got brd to 90 and then never touched it again. as said in my previous post, i truly do get it if things are just dying so quick that there's no point. but when things are going kind of slow... why wouldn't you?

[Mosha]

you tilted yourself TOWARDS thermobaric strike on the second boss,

I do this so the party can have can have uptime, as you say it's a face roll and you can just wait until the next aoe to heal anyway.

[Cincierta]

i still keep finding brds that don't dot on mobs. is this just not done anymore? i got brd to 90 and then never touched it again. as said in my previous post, i truly do get it if things are just dying so quick that there's no point. but when things are going kind of slow... why wouldn't you?

I'm a bit guilty of this. Normally I'd dot one or two of the mobs as songs now go off of a different timer instead of poison procs and I now get the benefits of my own songs, but I've not had an issue where things were dying that slowly unless my co-dps was alseep/afk.

I still miss my machine gun Rain of Arrows though.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[...]i still keep finding brds that don't dot on mobs. is this just not done anymore? i got brd to 90 and then never touched it again. as said in my previous post, i truly do get it if things are just dying so quick that there's no point. but when things are going kind of slow... why wouldn't you?

BRD's DoT no longer affects reportoire procs like their iteration in ShB. Past certain amount of mobs(?) it's just better for the BRD to spam their AoE fillers. Their repertoire now generated at 80% chance every 3s so long they have any songs playing.

[Nononu]

I do this so the party can have can have uptime, as you say it's a face roll and you can just wait until the next aoe to heal anyway.

fair enough - i usually don't even move, or, if it's literally at my side, scooch a bit to the opposite side but i can see why doing it that way would keep uptime. i don't think standing in all of livia's aoe infinite reach mess helps any uptime though, since she's untargetable.

I'm a bit guilty of this. Normally I'd dot one or two of the mobs as songs now go off of a different timer instead of poison procs and I now get the benefits of my own songs, but I've not had an issue where things were dying that slowly unless my co-dps was alseep/afk.

I still miss my machine gun Rain of Arrows though.

BRD's DoT no longer affects reportoire procs like their iteration in ShB. Past certain amount of mobs(?) it's just better for the BRD to spam their AoE fillers. Their repertoire now generated at 80% chance every 3s so long they have any songs playing.

this explains things then, thanks. i solely leveled brd through fates because i don't like it right now and never took it into higher level dungeons, so there ya go.

[Silica-chan]

Not a duty finder story, but I don't know where I should put this otherwise.

I finished my 630 Blacksmith Splendorous Tool (may have spelled this wrong) a few days ago and was like: ok time for some white scrips farm for the next scrip purchased material, then do some prep work for the other materials and do the next 2 steps easy like the ones before.
Well today I realized the next steps require expert crafts, my first thought was: pah w/e I just get HQ mats and make it work.
Moments later it saw that my plan doesn't work since you can't prep HQ mats for expert recipe's...

Now I'm sitting here in my lousy melded purple scrip gear, wondering if I can even get to the basic threshold to turn them in lol

Sometimes I think I'm a bit naive after I finished the last two steps of the fisher tool in roughly 2.5 hours I didn't think the crafter ones would be much harder XD

Sorry for the random rambling, just felt like posting it somewhere

[Cincierta]

I keep finding tanks in duties that either won't use defensive cooldowns or get upset when I ask them to use defensives. Just dropped from a lvl 50 duty where the DRK would barely mit/mit near death and stutter pull in Hullbreaker Isle, and would barely survive pulls despite my sch shields.

When asked, they got snippy with a 'bah humbug' 'I was' 'my gear ain't 90' I had to tell them of the other mitigations they get at 50 before eating the penalty. I have a feeling they've been told before but didn't want to realize it until it's been shoved into their face.

PSA to all tanks out there: you have Reprisal, Arm's Length, Rampart, Low Blow as your Role skills. Specific tank skills include: Sentinel, Shelltron, Shadow Wall, Vengeance, Thrill of Battle, Camouflage, Nebula, Aurora, Holmgang, Living Dead, Hallowed Ground, and everyone's favorite Superbolide at level 50 or below. Their cooldown timers are relatively short, so don't reserve them just for bosses as trash packs are FAR more dangerous than bosses are.

If that DRK from Behemoth is reading this, READ YOUR TOOLTIPS. Do not allow yourself to get carried like that, as you'll only end up developing bad habits that make life a living hell for us healers or even the rest of your party in the later dungeons you'll queue for. I'd hate to see you in Holminster Switch and up, because of not only that lack of mitigation but that attitude's going to get you kicked from duties.

We healers cannot do our job of helping out with dps if you're going to refuse to use your mits or barely use them.

[Justin_Millar]

Did I ever tell you of the time in cutter’s cry’s that a whm refused to heal?

Now I don’t mean they were terrible at healing or that they were new and didn’t know better - no I mean they’d only use attacking spells and zero (not even a regen) healing spells were used

To add to this absolutely shocking state of affairs they were in full ilvl 660 gear complete with Burger King crown, ofcourse in true ffxiv style we all hinted that maybe, just maybe the whm should throw a regen on the tank once in a while, especially with the larger pulls but nope, whm told tank to mit harder and that was that - so after we all took turns tanking and while the summoner was spamming it’s healing spell for that sweet 0.001% health gain we eventually cleared cutters (by sheer luck really)

Was wild times - i can’t get over it, some of you may have heard it already, I’ve been telling NN and alliance raid groups ever since so if we’ve played I’d have definitely mentioned it

[DiaDeem]

So... I'm doing the Aery on an alt (I'm SCH) and WAR giga pulls, which is fine. He uses immunity and drops to 1, and because I am me, I spam two lustrates on him because... you know, 1 HP.
The following ensues (I'm paraphrasing, and shortening the exchange):

Tank: You probably don't play WAR at all, or you'd know we have a ton of healing xD
Me: Yeah, I know. (Apparently I crossed the line with this one)
Tank friend: Well, you could be using that time to DPS
Me: I don't know how you play, so I'm still gonna shield you and heal you.
Tank: You really should listen to advice.
Me: I don't trust a PUG, and everyone seems to want something different, so I'll just do my thing.
Tank Friend: You should listen to good advice.
Tank: I'm just gonna blacklist them.
Tank Friend: The attitude annoyed me, with the "I know" and all.
Tank: I guess it's my fault for expecting the sprout to keep up with the mentor (Dude had a Burger King crown, though only the combat one)
Other DPS: Can you guys stop?
Me: I'm trying to play, you guys keep typing.

They didn't say another word for the rest of the dun. I've never had a tank yell at me for giving him two Lustrates when he's 1HP, so that was fun.