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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Ever consider that people just don't want to interact with minors in any capacity lol. I don't either. Why do you think so many people have "21+ only no minors". It's because even in SFW RP they don't want to interact with minors you weirdo. Stop twisting it to be like it's always erp lmao. Adults trying to avoid unnecessary interactions with minors should be a GOOD thing.
    ERP aside, why would that be a good thing? I can totally understand not wanting to play with 14-year-olds over a certain age (too much difference), but in this case it's not the "minor" that's the problem, but the age group. There's not much difference between a 21-year-old and an 18-year-old (to tell the truth, the arbitrary limit makes me laugh a little: in my country, 18 is the age of majority). It's an ostracization without any real meaning, other than the desire to protect oneself against certain accusations.

    But no, I don't find it at all unhealthy to integrate a younger player into an RP group as long as it's healthy. If the age difference, and therefore the mentality that goes with it, doesn't pose a problem for those involved, it can, on the contrary, provide a framework that is beneficial. Precisely because the adult is aware of the limits to be adopted, and that these will sometimes be crossed less than in a group of teenagers who tend to test the limits of what is acceptable. I'll take just one example from WOW: in my guild at the time, there was a very young 15-year-old player. A typical teenager, a little nervous, in crisis, and very aggressive. Personally, I avoid this type of player in general (I don't have the patience for it), but our guild leader kindly set limits for him, and from what I've seen, this helped turn him into a more respectful player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    ERP aside, why would that be a good thing? I can totally understand not wanting to play with 14-year-olds over a certain age (too much difference), but in this case it's not the "minor" that's the problem, but the age group. There's not much difference between a 21-year-old and an 18-year-old (to tell the truth, the arbitrary limit makes me laugh a little: in my country, 18 is the age of majority). It's an ostracization without any real meaning, other than the desire to protect oneself against certain accusations.

    But no, I don't find it at all unhealthy to integrate a younger player into an RP group as long as it's healthy. If the age difference, and therefore the mentality that goes with it, doesn't pose a problem for those involved, it can, on the contrary, provide a framework that is beneficial. Precisely because the adult is aware of the limits to be adopted, and that these will sometimes be crossed less than in a group of teenagers who tend to test the limits of what is acceptable. I'll take just one example from WOW: in my guild at the time, there was a very young 15-year-old player. A typical teenager, a little nervous, in crisis, and very aggressive. Personally, I avoid this type of player in general (I don't have the patience for it), but our guild leader kindly set limits for him, and from what I've seen, this helped turn him into a more respectful player.
    Personally, when I was in my early 20s, I didn't find that I had much in common with anyone not in their 20s. Now that I'm in my 30s, I won't really attempt to be friends or further with anyone under the age of 25 because I've found that again, we don't have much in common and are at different stages in life. I don't see any real reason to pursue a online friendship or group that involves teenagers at my age nor do I think it's at all appropriate for a 30+ year old person to want to seek friendship from teenagers lol. It's weird, idk what to tell you. Might be a bit better when they're in the lower range of their 20s to be friendly with an 18 year old but def not their 30s lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Personally, when I was in my early 20s, I didn't find that I had much in common with anyone not in their 20s. Now that I'm in my 30s, I won't really attempt to be friends or further with anyone under the age of 25 because I've found that again, we don't have much in common and are at different stages in life. I don't see any real reason to pursue a online friendship or group that involves teenagers at my age nor do I think it's at all appropriate for a 30+ year old person to want to seek friendship from teenagers lol. It's weird, idk what to tell you. Might be a bit better when they're in the lower range of their 20s to be friendly with an 18 year old but def not their 30s lol.
    But we're not even talking about friendship? Just interractions here: being part of the same guild, doing "normal" RP, and so on.

    There's also a difference between forming bonds (bonds that aren't limited to friendship, by the way) because you have a common interest and specifically seeking a friendship with someone much younger. In the first case, I don't think it's so disturbing: people follow a common pattern as they mature, but sometimes there are exceptions to the rule; and in the case of 'niche' hobbies (stamp collecting, for example), there are so few enthusiasts that it's always nice to meet some. On the other hand, yes: if an adult aged 30+ told me he wanted to form a friendship with a teenager and said that age was a criterion, I'd find that very strange, as you say. In fact I'd certainly report the individual in question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    ERP aside, why would that be a good thing? I can totally understand not wanting to play with 14-year-olds over a certain age (too much difference), but in this case it's not the "minor" that's the problem, but the age group. There's not much difference between a 21-year-old and an 18-year-old (to tell the truth, the arbitrary limit makes me laugh a little: in my country, 18 is the age of majority). It's an ostracization without any real meaning, other than the desire to protect oneself against certain accusations.

    But no, I don't find it at all unhealthy to integrate a younger player into an RP group as long as it's healthy. If the age difference, and therefore the mentality that goes with it, doesn't pose a problem for those involved, it can, on the contrary, provide a framework that is beneficial. Precisely because the adult is aware of the limits to be adopted, and that these will sometimes be crossed less than in a group of teenagers who tend to test the limits of what is acceptable. I'll take just one example from WOW: in my guild at the time, there was a very young 15-year-old player. A typical teenager, a little nervous, in crisis, and very aggressive. Personally, I avoid this type of player in general (I don't have the patience for it), but our guild leader kindly set limits for him, and from what I've seen, this helped turn him into a more respectful player.
    Why wouldn't it be a good thing lol, what business does a 25+ year old have with a teen other than playing the game? Ofc like, it's not always avoidable. There might be teens in FCs, parties, events (RP or otherwise) and talking to them on a base level is fine. I've ran events for different games that had minors in it and for the most part people were cool with it and talked to them with respect. Personally, with how FFXIV RP is, people blur the lines FAR too much between friendships, relationships, ect ect. I'm 27, I just don't find it comfortable to RP with a 16 year old, it's weird. Boundaries are ofc fine to teach, but it's not my responsibility beyond being courteous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padudu View Post
    Why wouldn't it be a good thing lol, what business does a 25+ year old have with a teen other than playing the game? Ofc like, it's not always avoidable. There might be teens in FCs, parties, events (RP or otherwise) and talking to them on a base level is fine. I've ran events for different games that had minors in it and for the most part people were cool with it and talked to them with respect. Personally, with how FFXIV RP is, people blur the lines FAR too much between friendships, relationships, ect ect. I'm 27, I just don't find it comfortable to RP with a 16 year old, it's weird. Boundaries are ofc fine to teach, but it's not my responsibility beyond being courteous.

    I echo this a bit, being in the same age group as you as well.

    I guess in my point of view, younger people tend not to have mental maturity or the experience of maturity or just in general life experience. As a result, this vastly excludes what you can talk to them about. IE I can't talk to a teen about the realisation of the future most of us hold (working for life, the politics in society, etc lol) and be able to expect empathetic commiseration of that nor a complex conversation of that commiseration.

    I don't RP in any capacity, but for adults I assume this idea is translated to RP in that there is a limitation of range (light rp vs. heavy, vocabulary, quality, unique voice, all those RP elements akin to storytelling). I'd imagine it's like reading a YA novel and being forced to stay within the confines of those ratings, because they are a teen. It's limiting and boring and doesn't allow for the natural transmutation of adult elements (mental issues, financial hardship, etc.) into the RP world. I don't even feel comfortable cursing around teens lol, just how I am.
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