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    You first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    You first.
    Mate, I just want to see this data. You said something and made it sound like fact, so it's on you to prove it.
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  4. #424
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    What? I thought you guys were the ones speaking from authority, my bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Flame wars can't be quantified, but a ratio in this case is the ratio of likes VS dislikes. The idea is that someone posts a hot take with some likes but a reply discredits it and generates significantly more likes. It is no coincidence that has occurred with both of the threads criticizing the VA. Being ratioed means the general audience is too lazy or dispassionate to disagree with the OP but want to let them know they're wrong by liking the earliest reply that does that for them.
    I do not think quantifying internet disagrements means that much more than internet disagreements in general.

    If anything, after widening the sample size from first two posts to first 10 posts per both example threads, this is discussion forum after all, I think the tone of the discussion is surprisingly neutral/even; either by being just neutral, off-topic or about as popular negative/positive stances canceling each other.
    No 10000 posts vs 10 likes situations in sight. Wouldn't call 60/40 or 30/70 opinion splits rationing yet but whatever.

    First discussion, titled as discussion about negative opinions of Wuk Lamat (Wuk Lamat's Poor EN Voice Acting) was full of off-topic discussion of earlier deleted thread, plainly on topic positive posts of Wuk Lamat remaining more popular than than negative posts.
    Second one, titled as general feedback thread ([Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice) stayed on topic better, plainly negative posts of Wuk Lamat remaining slightly more popular than positive posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slacktivism
    the practice of supporting a political or social cause by means such as social media or online petitions, characterized as involving very little effort or commitment.
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 01-29-2024 at 02:55 AM.

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    Last edited by Burmecia; 01-29-2024 at 02:38 AM.

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    Last edited by Burmecia; 01-29-2024 at 02:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    The first 10 posts doesn't represent the whole thread and neither does the ratio example. You'd have to add up all the likes in the thread.

    And nonetheless you're responding to what I said with "nu uh this" essentially. Thr first 10 pages are not the OP and the very first response to it. Other posts deviate off into other discussions and responses. The idea is that someone who is not going to view the whole thread, just likes the first post that suits their opinion. It doesn't mean it's a majority, but it's a strong indicator of what you may find if you add up the whole thread.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 01-29-2024 at 05:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    The first 10 posts doesn't represent the whole thread and neither does the ratio example. You'd have to add up all the likes in the thread.
    That doesn't make any sense, you'd just be counting the same people's likes over and over. After page 3 it's usually just gonna be the same handful of people liking each others posts while most of the reasonable people already left the thread forever. It only makes sense to look at the likes on the OP and the first reply that disagrees.
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