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    Casti_EL's Avatar
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    Casti Elensar
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    Assuming this isn't a troll thread . . . .

    A blanket change would not be well received. Most players I know have no issues with people wanting their pronouns to be what they want (or have any issues with devs putting options in the game to do so) but don't force us to adopt pronouns that we don't use ourselves as it's no different to how you feel about the current pronouns/gender settings.

    I have no issues if the devs add the option to have pronouns set by the player (akin to how BG3 works) though that may take quite a bit of dev time to go through and change all current content (not sure if any VA cutscenes refer to our gender?) If so, they would also need to be re-done which I can't see happening personally from a business/development point of view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casti_EL View Post
    (not sure if any VA cutscenes refer to our gender?).
    It's done pretty liberally throughout the entire story since swapping his/her, he/she, etc is a rather simple thing to seamlessly edit into the dialogue.
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    Gonna be frank:

    They should add the option just as much as they should add more proper beard options and long hairstyles. More options for character creation and player expression are always a good thing. Don't remove options, add as many as possible. I'd even make an argument for fashion/hair mods, but I'm not gonna cause I know that's heresy for some people.
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    Considering that it was done in Harvestella (a game on which XIV devs have worked on), I think the option for it would be pretty cool.

    I wish we could have a pronoun/gender choice considering a few NPCs both in-game and in EE have it this way already.

    Sure, adding a whole new pronoun to 13 years worth of text might take some time (even though your gender only appears, or even appears to be relevant in dialogue a handful of times only) but.. heh.
    About whats already in the game right now, Male or Female is just a character setting byte or something. I hope the option to pick which one we want will be available in the future!
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    The WoL in the trailer is a placeholder for your character so you can refer to the WoL as whatever you want and can't be wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobuyuki_Sanada View Post
    The WoL in the trailer is a placeholder for your character so you can refer to the WoL as whatever you want and can't be wrong
    Ya know, why does the placeholder have to be the Derplander, why can't we get multiple trailers with different characters as the placeholder, at least the original 5 characters that ended up being used as a base for Ardbert's group. Although swapping out the character for a Lalafell would definitely fuck up the animations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Ya know, why does the placeholder have to be the Derplander, why can't we get multiple trailers with different characters as the placeholder, at least the original 5 characters that ended up being used as a base for Ardbert's group. Although swapping out the character for a Lalafell would definitely fuck up the animations.
    Because changing out the main character in every trailer would be confusing. New players wouldn't know who it was and existing players would be left wondering if it was a new character. They would have to announce every trailer, "this is the WoL!", and that still wouldn't fix the they/them issue as looks don't imply one's preferred reference. There is nothing broke here to fix, nothing here is offensive or non-inclusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    Ya know, why does the placeholder have to be the Derplander, why can't we get multiple trailers with different characters as the placeholder, at least the original 5 characters that ended up being used as a base for Ardbert's group. Although swapping out the character for a Lalafell would definitely fuck up the animations.
    I kind of agree, I tried playing other races, but then feel out if place if i'm not derplander. But I suppose there isn't enough money and other stuff for switching the placeholder in the trailers.

    What is weird though, is that the in game trailer did used to get different races, I remember back in the they PLD was showcased as a Miqo'te for example in ARR and stuff, now everything is derplander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsuka-55 View Post
    I kind of agree, I tried playing other races, but then feel out if place if i'm not derplander. But I suppose there isn't enough money and other stuff for switching the placeholder in the trailers.

    What is weird though, is that the in game trailer did used to get different races, I remember back in the they PLD was showcased as a Miqo'te for example in ARR and stuff, now everything is derplander.

    Uh I mean ... according to census the MAJORITY of the players don't play derplander, and the majority also played female characters and I don't think that's ever been an issue. Asking for a different CGI cutsceen for each race would go beyond what most consider a reasonable demand ... by several magnitude
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