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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    Yes, it's like they are making a fake accent that doesn't exist.
    You mean they are making a fake accent for a fake world that's still recognizable enough? If it was a native kentuckian just pretending to sound Spanish it wouldn't work like that. Also, when people say they drop into an "American accent". It in no way resembles what someone from Kentucky would sound like.

    I swear this is like people thinking all brits sound the same...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    White American. Sounds like someone who doesn't know what white people from Kentucky sound like. Hint: it's not this.
    Listen I pushed back against another KY generalization else where, I'll do it here. We actually have a fairly diverse state that straddles several geocultural bounds, people from Kentucky don't sound any one particular way. Appalachia and Pennyroyal are about as different as they are physically distant, and people from all over make their homes here. The horse farms draw a lot of Hispanic and Latin American immigration in particular.

    Like is this the worst case of the generalizing absolutely not, but I don't think there's anything helpful about speaking in these absolutes. There's no one way a Kentuckian sounds, just like there's no one way a woman can sound
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You mean they are making a fake accent for a fake world that's still recognizable enough? If it was a native kentuckian just pretending to sound Spanish it wouldn't work like that. Also, when people say they drop into an "American accent". It in no way resembles what someone from Kentucky would sound like.

    I swear this is like people thinking all brits sound the same...
    You are defending a white person doing a foreign accent, I thought we were over the Apu situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    You are defending a white person doing a foreign accent, I thought we were over the Apu situation.
    I thought you said their accent is fake. Which is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikaiko View Post
    Listen I pushed back against another KY generalization else where, I'll do it here. We actually have a fairly diverse state that straddles several geocultural bounds, people from Kentucky don't sound any one particular way. Appalachia and Pennyroyal are about as different as they are physically distant, and people from all over make their homes here. The horse farms draw a lot of Hispanic and Latin American immigration in particular.

    Like is this the worst case of the generalizing absolutely not, but I don't think there's anything helpful about speaking in these absolutes. There's no one way a Kentuckian sounds, just like there's no one way a woman can sound

    I mean, that's kind of my point, but I'm just terrible at communicating that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourbestintoner View Post
    You are defending a white person doing a foreign accent, I thought we were over the Apu situation.
    Have we confirmed this? I initially thought this as well but it isn't clear if Sena is from America and as I said already. Yes, their skin tone is white but that doesn't tell us about her parents or where she grew up. She may live in the US right now but she's also apparently 37. Does anyone have any actual footage of Sena??? Otherwise not only are we invoking imaginary standards of consistency but also you don't even know Sena's real voice..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I mean, that's kind of my point, but I'm just terrible at communicating that.
    Definitely could use some workshoping on the phrasing then, but glad that we're generally sharing a page then. People are definitely using the Kentucky aspect like it proves much more of a point than it does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Have we confirmed this? I initially thought this as well but it isn't clear if Sena is from America and as I said already. Yes, their skin tone is white but that doesn't tell us about her parents or where she grew up. She may live in the US right now but she's also apparently 37. Does anyone have any actual footage of Sena??? Otherwise not only are we invoking imaginary standards of consistency but also you don't even know Sena's real voice..
    Bro, you guys are literally talking about how diverse a white guy born and raised in the middle of the USA who currently lives in California is and how that may imply he's "diverse" whatever and why it's not some -ist or -ism or some such for him to make inconsistent fake accents in a $40 video game with a subscription. What's wrong with y'all ? The acting sucks, his acting is the worst offender but the whole EN dub sucks overall, it always sucked. Start sending emails to SE to either have a proper discussion with the current cast and fix it or recast every role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikaiko View Post
    Definitely could use some workshoping on the phrasing then, but glad that we're generally sharing a page then. People are definitely using the Kentucky aspect like it proves much more of a point than it does
    She's of Puerto Rican descent. Just because she's a Kentucky native doesn't mean her parents are. They use the "white woman from Kentucky as a way to demean her and say she's not fit for her role. Most of these people saying that aren't from the states, hence why I said they probably don't even know what that sounds like. I wasn't trying to take it any further than that lol.

    Her profile lists Spanish as a language she speaks in a limited working fashion. Maybe she didn't use it often, who knows. It doesn't mean she's faking it.

    And yeah, I'm terrible at transcribing my thoughts into words, it's been a longtime problem of mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You mean they are making a fake accent for a fake world that's still recognizable enough? If it was a native kentuckian just pretending to sound Spanish it wouldn't work like that. Also, when people say they drop into an "American accent". It in no way resembles what someone from Kentucky would sound like.

    I swear this is like people thinking all brits sound the same...
    We don't know she's supposed to sound like. All we know at this point is that the various tribes of Tural were unified under a Mamool Ja leader 80 years ago and that individual adopted Wuk among others (her brother is Miqo'te). Then you have the Tural language, which was evidently pieced together from the various languages that had been used by the tribes in the past. Seems likely that those who live in Tural would have some crazy variety and twists in their accents as a result.

    If you want to assume everyone in Tural is supposed to sound alike then we need to question why she doesn't sound like Erenville. Or why she doesn't sound like the male Hrothgar that have had VAs so far since she's a Hrothgar.

    First impressions may have an impact but that doesn't mean that we can't step back and wait for more before passing judgment.
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