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  1. #21
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    No. They don’t have to come immediately next expansion, but new races shouldn’t be off the table. It can be a healthy way to revitalize an mmo long into its lifecycle. Times change, and new ideas of aesthetics become popular.

    Next expansion should absolutely focus on character customization before any new races are added. I 100% agree with this point that fans make on this forum, but I don’t agree when they instantly say that not having any races added in the future solves this problem for them. We can DELAY new races and focus on other improvements that are needed, and then get back to them later when It is a better time to do so.
    For the current time being I don't think it should happen. Maybe by 10.0.

    When we do eventually get new races added to the game I do not believe the community should even be choosing in any form. I know that's likely a very unpopular idea, but I don't believe there's a far way to pick out what is popular and what isn't. Reddit and even these very forums get brigaded.

    SE needs to figure out what they want to add at those times on their own and listen to feedback on what they offer instead. It's healthier for them to work within their own schedule on that anyways.
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  2. #22
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    Amor Valentine
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    I think the devs can also decide for themselves how to prioritize their work and development. Its possible to fix hats while also keeping ideas for new races flowing in the background. Everything in due time I hope.
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    Burmecian race or riot
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  4. #24
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    We need community pushback against this. New races are like new jobs. They'd be a huge announcement for a new expansion, and someone at SE is aware of this. Even after Dawntrail they are likely going to look for community support for new races because these races are marketable regardless of the workload they might create for the devs. Please be reasonable and deny them that support for it, let them focus on other content and additions.
    Wat

    Don't get me wrong, new races absolutely are a burden on the team, but that workload doesn't really impede work elsewhere on the game because it's just not the same people working on these different areas.

    Besides, unless they implement a drastically different body archetype akin to a truely beastial race or something with a unique limb arrangement like Lost Remnant's Sovani race they can just use the existing bone structures and item setups that we have already, EG Ivalician Moogles or Loporits would largely share assets with Lalafell.

    As to comments saying that SE should be focusing on mechanics, roles etcetc. This isn't FFXI, races are almost entirely aesthetic alone now. Raid designers aren't having to take into account Lalafell vs Roes.

    So personally, I'm of quite the opposite angle. Keep the new races coming. It's the lowest effort way to add an entirely fresh spin on the game for many++
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    As long as there is the issue of bad design that not everyone can use all gear, there should not be any discussion about new races. that is something that needs fixing before adding more races. Other than that I welcome new looks and playable races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyyninen_kirahvi View Post
    As long as there is the issue of bad design that not everyone can use all gear, there should not be any discussion about new races. that is something that needs fixing before adding more races. Other than that I welcome new looks and playable races.
    Exactly, the same developers and artists work on race features as do new races, so adding new races only stretches out how long it takes races to get to feature parity or reduces how many new character creator options we can get.
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    Viera and Hrothgar hats first, then fix all the existing race issues that have been overshadowed by that, then maybe we can talk about adding another race.
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    I disagree simply because IMO the game really needs another smol race to remove potatoes from having a monopoly on that size preferably more bestial in appearance. Like either making Loporrits playable or making something new such as introducing an actual Kitsune race as munchkin sized fluffy foxes.
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    Karma Dunkelsonn
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    More options are always a good thing so I think they should continue to add new races.
    Eventually. When they're feature-complete.
    Nobody should want a repeat of the half-finished implementations we got for hroth and viera.
    If they're not done for whatever expansion they were targeted for push them to the next expansion. On that note, don't even announce them until they're done and ready for release.
    Their focus now should be on fixing viera and hrothgar, then making good on the debt they owe older races but after that I see no reason to not work on something new, especially if its just another existing skeleton with a different gimmick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    We need community pushback against this.
    Nah, new races are great and lord knows the game sorely needs more diversity to break up the animal eared human variations.
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